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Mast hoops

I was wondering the pros and cons of the hoop method of attaching sails to the mast? I have only seen it on older solid wood masted rigs.


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You will then also have noticed that they are only on gaffers that have no spreaders or lower shrouds between the gooseneck and max hoist....

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I had them on an 18' dingy; worked without a problem, no jamming, quick and easy to rig and haul. Pros and cons - well, sometimes tracks can get a bit sticky, so arguably they have a slight edge; but to be honest (apart from Faster's point about spreaders or lower shrouds) I don't think it is a big deal either way.
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As Faster pointed out, you need to have an appropriate rig for them. Here are some pros and cons that I have come across:

Pros:
Very simple, something that you can build yourself.
Can improve air foil shape on a large diameter mast.
Traditional looking.
Can't jam so that you are unable to lower the sail.
They provide some shock absorption in a large gust.

Cons:
You need to get them on which often requires putting them over the masthead. Sometimes you can twist them around the mast but you tend to break a lot doing this.
They need to attach in some way, rivets create stress point and can dig into the mast while lashings need to be redone regularly.
It is one more thing to varnish.
Depending on how you size them they can fail easily.
They can jam on each other/anything sticking out when raising.
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You will then also have noticed that they are only on gaffers .....................
Some might cal it a "gaffer" too, but don't forget the Sliding Gunter Rig. Take care and joy, Aythya crew
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Thanks for the input it helps a lot.


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It is exactly as Klem says. Hard to see in the photo but these are ss - have used bamboo previously

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Mast hoops can introduce a fair amount of friction to the hoist and do, eventually, wear on a mast. In daze-of-olde they were eventually replaced with loops of line passed through parrel beads to eliminate friction:



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So given the choice would you prefer a sail track or hoops?


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It's really a choice of boat/rig first... The hoops(or equivalents) look much more traditional and would be more in keeping with the intent, look and character of these types of boats.

Ultimately I think a "proper" sail track would be more efficient, but that's rarely an issue on boats of these types... and may well spoil the 'look'.

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