We are 99% sure we are going engine-less - Page 4 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 10-26-2010
jackdale's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 8,833
Thanks: 26
Thanked 36 Times in 33 Posts
Rep Power: 6
jackdale will become famous soon enough
I have been engineless, by accident not on purpose, when we hit a fishing net under - taking out our transmission (we were really transmissionless, the engine was OK). That was in the middle of the Pacific high - no wind. It was one of the most trying experiences in my boating experience.

If you are committed, you might want to look at the work of Lin and Larry Pardey. (Sailing Blog | Nautical Book Authors | Lin & Larry Pardey)
__________________
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203, 204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #32  
Old 10-26-2010
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,935
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Quote:
If you pull the engine you will lose about 400 lbs of weight
down low which may have a negative effect on the boat's stability if
not replaced. Even if you use lead bars they will take up some space
and should definitely be well secured.
I would imagine there is some room down in the bilge to add 400 lbs? The Alberg designed boat I have has a stupid deep bilge.

I would imagine that once you are 'out there', the docking issue wouldn't come up often if you anchor-out.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #33  
Old 10-26-2010
blt2ski's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,684
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 10
blt2ski will become famous soon enough
One that has not been mentioned, not sure how many times I have read where a person gets anchored, and a storm rolls in, and the motor is what keeps them from dragging anchor(s)! granted not full power, but enough to take some 20-30% of the winds, ie hurricane force! off the anchor, them in the water vs on the shore.

I've rowed across lake washington as a teen with my 8' pram enough when the wind died, ie 2-3 miles to not want a boat without a motor. OR the time my oar locks broke, then had to hitch a tow. Then with currents in the 5-8 knot range locally, ie Puget Sound/ salish sea including the BC waters north of me. No wind, 8 knot current in front of you, not that my motor will over power 8 knots, none the less, I would keep my 20hp Yanmare 2gm20! or what ever the model number is.....

Hot water heater, working fridge......do not have them now, a bit of water heated on the stove is all one needs to daily wash with etc. Ice, will last a few days, to a week if you have a "REALLY" good ice chest! Enough for most passages. And if you need more ice than 5-7 days, you better have lots of canned, freezed dried or dehydrated food along, or something that will last more than food in a fridge or equal. IC is obviously out the door!

Marty
__________________
She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #34  
Old 10-26-2010
LandLocked66c's Avatar
Sunsets and Warm Beer....
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: The Bottom of a Pint Glass...
Posts: 2,111
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
LandLocked66c is on a distinguished road
I'm with you on the composting head, get rid of the holding tank, etc... For two people, composting is the way to go. That'll free up some room!
__________________
1971 23' Oday Pop Top
S/V Frida

You can't steer a boat that isn't moving? Just like a life - P. Lutus
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #35  
Old 10-26-2010
chrisncate's Avatar
prwg, NOW!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,640
Thanks: 18
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
chrisncate is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by dabnis View Post
Chris,
Having trouble getting all my thoughts on one post, a "senior moment"
I guess. If you pull the engine you will lose about 400 lbs of weight
down low which may have a negative effect on the boat's stability if
not replaced. Even if you use lead bars they will take up some space
and should definitely be well secured.

Dabnis
Well, if we did pull the engine that space would hold so much storage (or a new water tank), that the weight would probably remain the same or even increase. I certainly wouldn't pull the engine and waste the valuable space..
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #36  
Old 10-26-2010
BubbleheadMd's Avatar
Chastened
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edgewater/Annapolis
Posts: 2,837
Thanks: 0
Thanked 54 Times in 50 Posts
Rep Power: 5
BubbleheadMd will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to BubbleheadMd
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
I have been engineless, by accident not on purpose, when we hit a fishing net under - taking out our transmission (we were really transmissionless, the engine was OK). That was in the middle of the Pacific high - no wind. It was one of the most trying experiences in my boating experience.

If you are committed, you might want to look at the work of Lin and Larry Pardey. (Sailing Blog | Nautical Book Authors | Lin & Larry Pardey)

I'd rather hear your story. It sounds fascinating.
__________________
S/V Old Shoes
1973 Pearson 30 #255
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #37  
Old 10-26-2010
chrisncate's Avatar
prwg, NOW!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,640
Thanks: 18
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
chrisncate is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleheadMd View Post
I'd rather hear your story. It sounds fascinating.
Yes, me too.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #38  
Old 10-26-2010
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 48
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
my900ss is on a distinguished road
I have never sought advise on something I was 99% sure of...

If the $5,000 you believe you will get from the sale of your used Diesel motor is going to have an impact on your life then I doubt you are financially able to drop everything and sail off into the Sunset without a backward glance.

My advise would be to save up the $5,000 required to charter a boat for 10 days. Fly to the Bahamas and go for 10 days with the motor off... see how it works for you. If you need to start the motor once for any reason then you have your answer.

This thread to me seems like an answer looking for a problem, i.e. you want help in convincing yourself of a poor choice.

My 2 cents.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #39  
Old 10-26-2010
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: FL
Posts: 182
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
trisstan87 is on a distinguished road
While I can totally relate to the 'purist,' ideals, I think the buck definently stops at the diesel. No AC? Fine. Only the bare minimum in electronics? Sure. Relying 100% on sails and wind power with plans of crossing the Pacific? mmmmmmmmmm no. I am looking for a boat right now in the 25' foot range that I will take from FL to the Bahamas and back and I do not even consider boats with outboards. Its diesel or nothing. If its nothing, maybe Ill see if your interested
Good luck.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #40  
Old 10-26-2010
chrisncate's Avatar
prwg, NOW!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,640
Thanks: 18
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
chrisncate is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by my900ss View Post
I have never sought advise on something I was 99% sure of...

If the $5,000 you believe you will get from the sale of your used Diesel motor is going to have an impact on your life then I doubt you are financially able to drop everything and sail off into the Sunset without a backward glance.

My advise would be to save up the $5,000 required to charter a boat for 10 days. Fly to the Bahamas and go for 10 days with the motor off... see how it works for you. If you need to start the motor once for any reason then you have your answer.

This thread to me seems like an answer looking for a problem, i.e. you want help in convincing yourself of a poor choice.

My 2 cents.
Quote:
I have never sought advise on something I was 99% sure of...
Really? Seems like if one isn't 100% sure of something, advice is always a really great idea. And that's illustrated this thread actually, because after getting really valuable insight from some folks here, I think we may possibly be on the wrong track in getting rid of the diesel.

And I don't have 10 days or the cash to waste on a vacation, every dime is going towards Heron right now. But thanks for the post, I still appreciate it.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How much will I pay for used engine? thisiswater Diesel 9 06-14-2010 09:02 PM
How to know if engine is a fuel injection engine 99miles Gear & Maintenance 4 05-31-2010 10:42 AM
well i need some engine help scottyt Gear & Maintenance 18 06-23-2009 11:43 PM
My engine is getting too hot.. groundhog Gear & Maintenance 30 09-04-2007 04:27 AM
Help with Old Engine Whompper Gear & Maintenance 4 09-07-2004 06:39 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:26 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.