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I used to crew on a racing boat and generally we'd sail into the slip to avoid having to put the motor on. Sometimes we dropped the sail at just the right minute and sometimes we didn't. My job was to go to the bow, grab the pier just before we hit, then jump off and guide the boat in. They called me the "Human Fender".
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Nah. Sometimes it's just too easy.
Only applies to sailing instructions. In everything else she's the exact opposite.
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If we're coming in our home slip , I can't imaging a reason why I'd need to get off while the boat was moving. BTW, an aft spring is the first line that we tie because we back into the slip. Without the spring, we'd crunch the transom.

For dockings at transient slips, we rarely need to get off to secure a line. If we have no dock helpers, I may elect to get off. In those cases, I'm the only one that gets off, only if another line is already on a piling, and the boat is stopped.

I had the opposite problem last year. At a transient marina, a drunk powerboater helping us tie up actually got ON our boat. My wife and I were dumbfounded because the boat was secure, and we were just tidying up. I guess that he liked the boat and wanted to see more.
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I'm with the OP on this one as well (seems to be the prevailing opinion). Typically it's just myself and my wife doing the boat handling and in that case no one leaves the boat until I have at our 'docking harness' attached. Sometimes when I'm sailing with a crew of experienced sailors, someone jumps to the dock. I really don't have a problem with that if they are comfertable with it, but still, it should be nothing more than a long step.

My docking harness, mentioned above is a line that attaches to the boat at the stern cleat and amidships, through a haws-hole and lead back to the jib winch and cleat. The line has plenty of slack in it and has several figure-eights tied along the length. My wife stands between the stern and amidships with the line on a boat hook. As I approach the dock, all she has to do is place the line over the aft-most dock cleat and make sure that it doesn fall off until there is some tension on it. I approach the dock with just enough speed to maintain steerage and when the line goes over, she yells "made" and I move over to the jib-winch to take up any slack in the line. At this point the boat is still in forward gear, low RPM's. Once the slack is taken up an the boats momentum tightens the rest of the harness, we effectively have a stern line and a spring line attached. I use the screw and rudder to snug the bow in and we can calmly attach the rest of the lines.

We've docked like this with some pretty good cross winds and haven't had much trouble. Argyle is a 38' 10 ton full keeled cruiser so having some kind of procedure and plan is key. Also, knowing where you can't get into and where you can is also key.
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On my boat...CREW = FENDER.
Really? Are you looking for BBW's (big beautiful women)
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Really? Are you looking for BBW's (big beautiful women)
It's true, BBW do love BFS.

Except you missed it a bit on the BBW...the first B is for "buxom" not "big". Either way, you got fenders.
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From the last trip, the captain was yelling at me because I failed to jump off the boat.
Anyone who did that to me wouldn't have to worry about inviting me along again. That guy should take another look at Newtonian physics. Especially the part about every action having an equal and opposite reaction. Crew jumping off pushes the boat out.

I'm like most of the other folks who have replied. For docking we have a single spring line on the mid-ship's cleat; and The Admiral also takes the bow line. However, we both understand that hanging on to the spring line is priority #1.

Similar to Jackdale, our command is: "Crew step ashore when safe to do so".
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Another 'no jumping'... I'd add that except in extreme conditions I prefer that no lines be tossed to waiting 'helpers'.....
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Telling yourself to jump off when docking single-handed?

Good idea or bad idea? In the "Docking in High Crosswinds" thread, I asked . . .
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A slip neighbor with a Catalina with no mid-ship cleat mentioned that when single-handing, he would tie a long line from the bow cleat to the stern cleat, come in just fast enough to maintain steerage way, reverse to stop, hop on the finger dock, and secure things while using the long line to control the boat. I can envision a few risks with this approach in a strong crosswind, but would be interested in hearing thoughts from the "panel". I have a mid-ship cleat and I've been using it as suggested in the posts above, but I've wondered about trying the long-line approach as an alternative.
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Classiest docking I ever saw - down in the Caribbean, a guy came in single-handing, he had long lines looped around the jib winches, backed into the slip - as he first entered, he looped those lines around the outer pilings, then he put the boat in reverse and as he backed in he paid out those springlines like the reins on a horse to control the direction of the boat as he went. By the time he was fully back in the slip he had two springlines in place. A dockhand said, "throw me a line" and the guy replied, "I'll HAND you the line when I'm ready," which he did, walking the bow lines forward. Gorgeous job!

When we dock, usually I'm at the helm and Dan is at the bow (put the muscle where it's needed in the [rare] event he needs to fend off - and dock hands are a lot more tolerant of the girl at the helm. I try to emulate our Caribbean friend, though I'm nowhere near as smooth. No jumping till the boat is stationary, hopefully resting against the finger pier, but if not, that's what the boat pole is for.

I'm with the others in that tossing lines to waiting helpers does more harm than good except in crises. And if someone's up to embroidering that saying on a pillow, I'll take one too!
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