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Thanks for the feedback guys. That's exactly what I was thinking. I have no doubt that the rally organizers make sure that all the details are covered. But, I tend to agree with Jon that the underlying collective notion of the rally, rightly or wrongly, is the implied safety of making your first passage in a "group". (I took a quick look at the site and don't see where they specifically make this claim.)

This notion could mean trouble from the outset - especially in a very questionable start like they had. For example, if you're a newb and the other boats are headed out into stuff that made guys like Ausp head back home - you're going to follow. Because it's supposed to be "safe". And things are going to be bad. Then what?


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Still nothing out there about the owners, no lawsuits no nothing...

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It just seems this idea of safety in a pack might be a little overblown.
Of course it is overblown. The safety thing is 90+% psychological. OK you have a weather net and a locator but gribs can be downloaded via a sat phone and positions relayed ashore.

It is not unheard of for one pack member to rescue another but would they not have done so anyway if close by? One would hope so.

Anyway none of the above relates to the thread topic. They tried an entrance at a time they should not have done so. Deep water is safe water and thats where they should have been.
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Still nothing out there about the owners, no lawsuits no nothing...
As sad as it may be, lawsuit is not justified regardless what the captain or organizer did or didn't do. Every sailor or captain should know the risks and must accept it. Stop blaming others to seek financial compensation when something go wrong.

I am sure the lawyers may have other thing to say.


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Still nothing out there about the owners, no lawsuits no nothing...
Just because there is nothing in the blogosphere to satisfy lurkers' curiosity does not mean that nothing was resolved. Maybe (hopefully) the matter was settled privately (both morally and financially). That's the way it should happen when no laws are broken.


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Maybe (hopefully) the matter was settled privately (both morally and financially). That's the way it should happen when no laws are broken.
Unless you know more we do, I hope there is NO financial settlement in this case. Suggestion this without fact is just wrong.

If there was a settlement, it will be the beginning of the end of "Crew Want". No captains have any right mind will offer any crew position knowing he will be sued. This will be a sad day because not all sailors have money and resources to own his/her boat.

Why do we always have to blame someone for our misfortune. Do our homework, do your own risk assessment, blame GOD but don't blame the captain, put the gun in his head and fight for our survival.

If we have not done that, we die instead of the Captain. Don't get upset, it is fate. However, if the Captain did some criminal act and causes Laura to lose her life. Yes, I should go about him. But there is no trace of evident.

I am not being insensitive to the family of Laura, it is a tragedy and not necessary.

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Honestly, I am not being nosy, I truly want to know more than just not going into Marsh harbor at night in a rage. I may have to face this situation, and I want my crews and myself come out alive.


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Unless you know more we do, I hope there is NO financial settlement in this case. Suggestion this without fact is just wrong.

If there was a settlement, it will be the beginning of the end of "Crew Want". No captains have any right mind will offer any crew position knowing he will be sued. This will be a sad day because not all sailors have money and resources to own his/her boat...
I know nothing. That's why I started my post with "maybe."

I was not suggesting that a financial settlement was called for, just that if there was one maybe it was done privately. And as long as it was private, it will not set a precedent that interferes with you desire for free crew.


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Meant nothing more than I was "surprised" in this day and age that there wasn't some kind of lawsuit. That is all...

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