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On a high end:
Vende Globe boats use tiller,
Volvo ocean race boats have twin wheels.
So, you can not say tiller is history.


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It's never too late and it never get's old.

For boats -30ft it's got to be tiller!!
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Guys - c'mon, we're not supposed to be feeding this thread. Dog says it's too old to be of any interest.
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Guys - c'mon, we're not supposed to be feeding this thread. Dog says it's too old to be of any interest.
Why? There ain't any tillers no more after this time?
Too bad, I used to like them better than wheels.
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Why? There ain't any tillers no more after this time?
Too bad, I used to like them better than wheels.
Hey Harvester - don't ask me dude. Sailingdog's the one that spanked Triq for throwing in his 2 cents yesterday on this thread. So take it up with him. I'm just trying to keep the peace.
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Interesting that someone above would mention the familiarity of automobile wheel-handling as a good recommendation for a cockpit wheel. That's precisely why I prefer tillers: I like the gestalt of the sailing experience to be as un-car-driving-like as possible!

I understand all the arguments favoring a wheel's utility -- space, can steer from multiple positions around the cockpit, etc. -- but when I'm in a boat, I want it to feel like I'm in a boat, not plodding through traffic on some road.

If my car had a tiller, I might go the other way....

(And I'm enjoying this thread, let's keep it going! )
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I like the gestalt of the sailing experience to be as un-car-driving-like as possible!
Indeed.

Some might say karma or mojo, but gestalt really sums it up perfectly!!

Tiller it be!!
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Interesting that someone above would mention the familiarity of automobile wheel-handling as a good recommendation for a cockpit wheel. That's precisely why I prefer tillers: I like the gestalt of the sailing experience to be as un-car-driving-like as possible!

I understand all the arguments favoring a wheel's utility -- space, can steer from multiple positions around the cockpit, etc. -- but when I'm in a boat, I want it to feel like I'm in a boat, not plodding through traffic on some road.

If my car had a tiller, I might go the other way....

(And I'm enjoying this thread, let's keep it going! )
Wow, gestalt! Now that's a sweet word. You've gotta be an architect. I like your thinking - but I just feel that the wheel captures the very De Stijl of helmsmanship.

And I dare you to put a tiller on your car! I love it!
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Don't a lot of large trimarans have tillers? maybe im mistaken but check out some of these pictures






Another example of modern racing use of the classic tiller yes some do have wheels but theres nothing like the response of a tiller and i personally think its more fun

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On a 22' O'day with a tiller I rigged up a home made self steering setup as follows:

Tied off light line to tiller
Route to block on windward side of cockpit.
Tie off to middle of one part of main sheet.

Connect bungee from tiller to Leeward side of cockpit.

We sailed on a beam reach for about 6 hours, never had to touch the helm.
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