Is this possible on around 10k?

[chrisncate]

Can I get this done on a budget of roughly 10k (Alberg 30, Annapolis area)?

1- New chainplates (just chainplates, no other stranding rigging replacement right now) - self install.

2- New toe rail, mahogany, have cut professionally - self install and finish.

3- Have 2GM Yanmar pulled out, re habbed, re installed.

4- New stuffing box, cutlass bearing, re furb shaft assembly.

5- Windvane - self install.

6- Composting head swap for current marine head - self un-install old/install new.

7- Re do bottom and paint hull + topsides + interior - DIY.

8- Cabin heat (self install + part cost, kerosene heater?).

9- Misc interior (veneer's, paint, new water tank w/foot pump)

10- Solar panels - self install

11- New life lines (tripled) self install.

12- 125' of chain.

13- Fabricate new plexiglass portlights - self install.

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[bljones]

Depending upon paint used, figure $1K for paint AND supplies, if rolling and tipping- I did my boat this year (bottom, topsides and deck) and the paint ran $264 but sandpaper, tape, etc. ran another $250.

Before pulling the Yanmar, diagnose it first. Do a compression check and an oil analysis. if it's not blowing smoke, the oil is coming up cleanish, but compression is low, you may want to pull the head only and do a valve and gasket job, replace injectors, liftpump, etc., clean, replace exhaust elbow, etc, and leave the block itself in place. If this proves out, then you're gonna be about $3K parts and labour, double that to R&R the longblock.

Composting head will set you back close to $1K

Solar panels- how many watts?

Toerail- what are the dimensions?

Interior- do you want to reveneer the bulkheads and furniture in place, or just reface the galley or?

Cabin heat-figure another $1100 for a Dickinson and all install parts, plus the stuff you don't think of, like heat shielding behind it, etc.

The rest, i have no idea about. But figure i just used up more than half of your budget.

[kindsail]

we have a 30' boat and I have added up the Interlux Brightside paint and primer for the deck and upper hull. adn PET Vivid for the bottom coat plus two coats of barrier and the supplies alone are at $1400. Not sure what kind of paint the person in the other post is using to paint a whole boat for $250, but make sure you are using the right product for your boat and the water you sail in.

If I had to guess, you will be pushing your budget. Sounds like you might take the list and make a priority list and start there. Paint and motor work seem to be your most important items there. Do those first, then move on. If you have a table saw and a sander, you can buy FAS teak or mahogony and make your own toe rails. That will save you a bunch right there.

I have learned that marine life is expensive. I find the part I want/need, and then search for the deals.

DIY is how we afforded our boat. Purchased w/ the money we saved doing our own home reno!!

[kd3pc]

Originally Posted by chrisncate

Can I get this done on a budget of roughly 10k (Alberg 30, Annapolis area)?

1- New chainplates (just chainplates, no other stranding rigging replacement right now) - self install.

if you can get the chainplates (stock item)..$400-600, if you have to have them made...closer to $1k

2- New toe rail, mahogany, have cut professionally - self install and finish.

assuming you have enough to use as a pattern, at least $1k for material and shop work

3- Have 2GM Yanmar pulled out, re habbed, re installed.

this could easily use your entire budget, especially in Naptown, I would trouble shoot and repair if possible, if not head to Deltaville

4- New stuffing box, cutlass bearing, re furb shaft assembly.

This could approach $2k with a haul and block and DIY...as it is unlikely to be done on a "short haul"...DIY or yard?? Cost upward for the yard

5- Windvane - self install.

Materials and supplies $500, plus the cost of the windvane

6- Composting head swap for current marine head - self un-install old/install new.

$1K just for the head, install and venting, etc another $2-300

7- Re do bottom and paint hull + topsides + interior - DIY.

$2k-6K (and up if sprayed or blast/grind bottom) depending on quality of materials and supplies...haul and block additional..

8- Cabin heat (self install + part cost, kerosene heater?).

$1K or more for dependable heater for marine use,

9- Misc interior (veneer's, paint, new water tank w/foot pump)

This will be tough to estimate, DIY or yard, quality of materials, available shop/tools. Wood work and finishing could easily use your entire $10K Water tank $300, PEX and fittings $500, ft pump $100

10- Solar panels - self install

$1k per panel, plus any mount work to get them installed. Charge controller and cabling $500, assuming you have recent vintage charger/electric/wiring


11- New life lines (tripled) self install.

Close to $1k for decent quality and two gates

12- 125' of chain.

$500 to 1k for good stuff, depending on size and fittings

13- Fabricate new plexiglass portlights - self install.

$400 per portlight unless they are 100% flat, Dow 795 two tubes per window at $15 per tube. IF they are shaped or curved...

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All the best...you may want to consider bringing the boat to a cheaper area and haul and block for a bit fr your job.... In checking the difference in shop rates between Naptown and on the Northern Neck last month...hourly rates vary by as much as $40/hr...haul and block vary by $100 as well...Craft work prices, in spite of the current economy are still quite high, especially carpentry, finish work and decent quality wood and veneers.

YMMV

[kindsail]

wow, you can get a 50W panel w/ 12V charger on Amazon for $250. Glad my boat isn't where you guys live. None of that costs that much around here. Whew.

[bljones]

But you overpay for paint.

You're right- I underestimated paint cost. I painted my boat with interlux brightside. I just checked my bills- 1 gallon of white, two quarts of blue, a gallon of primer, one quart of bottomkote, (I still had a half quart left over from last year- $264 total. I forgot the bottom paint cost because up here that is an annual cost, so i didn't think to include it in my topsides repaint calculation.

[kindsail]

I priced two coats of paint and one coat of primer deck and topside, and two coats of barrier and albative bottomside on a 30' Kirie. The costs w/ all needed items came just short of $1400. What size boat are you painting and where do you get the cheap prices?? I searched and these are the lowest prices I found online. Our local shops are all crazy expensive in comparison.
I used the guides on the site to estimate needed amounts and went over a little for better to have a little too much than not enough. Don't believe the boat has ever been painted topside. And I know the bottom has been too long.

Of course I will be doing all the work myself. Certainly can't afford the $300 per foot the painters want.

[sailingdog]

I seriously doubt that you can do all of that for $10,000 in the Annapolis area.

The chainplates, as noted above are going to be $400-1000

The toe rail will be $1000-2000 at a minimum for the materials and cutting.

The engine, cutlass bearing, stuffing box and alignment altogether is going to be at least $3000 as a rough guess.

A wind vane is at least $2000, unless you make one yourself.

The composting head is at least $1000.

Solar panels aren't cheap, and that doesn't include the charge controller or wiring, or mounting. Depending on how many watts you need will determine the cost of everything.

That's at least $10,000 at a minimum and doesn't include the cabin heat and such.

Originally Posted by chrisncate

Can I get this done on a budget of roughly 10k (Alberg 30, Annapolis area)?

1- New chainplates (just chainplates, no other stranding rigging replacement right now) - self install.

2- New toe rail, mahogany, have cut professionally - self install and finish.

3- Have 2GM Yanmar pulled out, re habbed, re installed.

4- New stuffing box, cutlass bearing, re furb shaft assembly.

5- Windvane - self install.

6- Composting head swap for current marine head - self un-install old/install new.

7- Re do bottom and paint hull + topsides + interior - DIY.

8- Cabin heat (self install + part cost, kerosene heater?).

9- Misc interior (veneer's, paint, new water tank w/foot pump)

10- Solar panels - self install

11- New life lines (tripled) self install.

12- 125' of chain.

13- Fabricate new plexiglass portlights - self install.

?

[Capnblu]

Nope.

[chrisncate]

1- New chainplates (just chainplates, no other stranding rigging replacement right now) - self install.

I was thinking about $100 per chainplate if I go have them fabricated at a machine shop, is that to low? They are pretty simple in shape on my boat.

2- New toe rail, mahogany, have cut professionally - self install and finish.

I just bought the wood for the coamings and winch blocks, it was $320 total for three large pieces of Sapelee Mahogany slightly milled on three sides. The wood shop is charging me under $300 to cut everything and epoxy the winch blocks together to shape. I will finish and install. So I figured for the toe rail sections, maybe another $350/400. The shape is a fairly simple rectangular shape.

3- Have 2GM Yanmar pulled out, re habbed, re installed.

I figured this would be a lot. The motor runs good now, although I think I have water in the diesel or a dirty filter. I had rpm problems after my last fill up. It was a rough day and I bought diesel that might have had water in it. I was thinking of a rehab as a preventative before we leave next year.

4- New stuffing box, cutlass bearing, re furb shaft assembly

Not including haul out, what do you think this would cost for an Alberg 30?

5- Windvane - self install.

Do I need it for the Caribbean? Seems like it.

6- Composting head swap for current marine head - self un-install old/install new.

Buy one for 1k or keep existing marine head? I have a 6 gallon tank and no macerator. Nice head though, bad (smelly) hoses.

7- Re do bottom and paint hull + topsides + interior - DIY.

How much paint do you think it would take to do the whole boat (in gallons)?

8- Cabin heat (self install + part cost, kerosene heater?).

Is kerosene a good way to go? Anyone have one? Can I get away under $1500 you think with a self install?

10- Solar panels - self install

Something that will charge my three batteries reliably. Do I really need a charge controller?

11- New life lines (tripled) self install.

Any idea on cost here?

13- Fabricate new plexiglass portlights - self install.

I was figuring about $100 per window. Off base?