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Old 01-07-2011
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Actually there are a lot of sailboats in OC, large and small.

Sailing in the bay will be substantially improved in 2012 when the old bascule bridges are replaced with high spans.

Hobies are primarily sailed off the beach, but there is a Hobie renter (Baycats) on the bay, along with a Yacht Club, and the city has gotten a sailing program in the last few years.

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I lved in Ocean City NJ for 18 years when I worked in the Casinos. I like Ottos had a Hobie on the beach both in front of my house and in the State Park on the south end. Great places for it and the ocean is the place to sail.

The Bay behind the island is large enough for a 22 footer although I think you will get bored with it as there is not enough room after a few years. There is a the Ocean City Yacht Club on Battersea Rd where they race 25's a lot, but they are trailered and dropped in when you want to use them.

When I lived there I bought a 28 Islander. I kept it in Toms River about 1 hour north of there ( always was heading opposite way of traffic on weekends) and sailed on Barnegat Bay. 25-28 footers are great there,, Shallow...nice long 15 mile run north and south, but Barnegat is also shallow and the draft cannot be more than 4.5 ft.

I would not take a small keelboat in and out of the inlet a lot. It is extremely trecherous, shifting sandbars, and very often has major rollers rolling thoughit in the PM especially with onshore brreze out of the SE and opposing tide. A powerboat or hobie which can move through the inlet quickly is one thing, but a keelboat top speed of 7 knots is another. I lived overlooking that inlet for 18 years and saw an average of 20 sailboats a year get stuck on the moving bars there. There has been a few lives lost as well as a fair number of boats battered and damaged.

Feel free to PM me as I have sailed that area for many years...also Ottos lives there now I beleive.

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We kept our first boat a Beneteau 235 with fixed keel in Beasley's Point. There were a number of Catalina 22 in the marina at the time and everyone had to pay attention to the tide. The general rule was to go out on a rising tide, apx 3 hrs prior, and get back in no later than 3 hrs after high tide. There were times when the weather conditions kept the tide out and we had a narrower window. Every now and then we'd venture out the Great Egg Harbor Inlet which as Chef said can be trecherous. The inlet is constantly changing and the marks should be considered suspect as a result. It wouldn't keep me from going out, just make me pay more attention to the conditions. The big power boats rip in and out and won't give you any room so be prepared for that as well. Compared to sailing out of Riverside on the Delaware the back bays should give you an equal or greater amount of pleasure. There are a number of places to tuck into and drop the hook for lunch, a swim, etc. The kids had a great time. Just don't forget to have your bug spray handy since some nights the no see ums will eat you alive. Of course I'll bet you already know that
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So true about the bug spray. also the state bird is an insect known as the 'GREENHEAD FLY". It wil take chunks of you unitl you kill it, but it flkies slowly so it is easy pickings with a fly swatter. On our last cruise down the Delaware River we had the wind behind us , my wife and I had to don long sleeves and long pants on a 95+ day to keep from being eaten alive. When we got to the dock at Utschs in cape may we had no less than 200 green head kills in our cockpit. We cruise with flyswatter and backup in NJ.

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The Green Head fly, it's the New Jersey State Bird We had trouble with the small black flys off of Tilghman Island a couple of years ago on a still hot day. They would only bite below the knees but were relentless. Nothing seemed to work until we sprayed ourselves with Windex. Out of desperation we tried it hoping the ammonia in it would deter them, which it did for about 15mins. Needless to say we kept the bottle handy for that portion of the trip.
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I have sailed quite a bit on a wing keel Capri 22 in Barnegat bay. My buddy that owns the boat is terrified of running aground, he starts looking for deeper water when the depth sounder goes below 5 feet! I once purposely touched bottom while he down below answering the call of nature. you'd have thought I sunk the boat the way he reacted!

25 years ago I had a business associate out on my 27 foot Hunter, which drew 3'3". I was chatting and not paying attention when we ran aground. A short distance ahead another boat had also gone hard aground. I suggested we have lunch and enjoy watching what the other boat did to get loose. As we ate they put out a dinghy with an anchor aboard and rowed it out to starboard. They tied a halyard to the anchor line and tilted the boat over towards the deeper water. My associate asked why I didn't seem to be worried about our situation. I told him that I knew a secret that the other boat didn't seem to know. We finished lunch and I said we should get going. I dropped the stern ladder, stepped off into the 3 feet of water and walked around to the bow. I lifted gently and pushed us back into deeper water the way we came in, then climbed back on board. In my whole life I have NEVER run aground in deep water!

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Gary's comment reminds of a time we were aground by Beasley's Point. We knew we had a rising tide but a small power that had also run aground did not. The captain got out and walked around the boat. We couldn't hear the conversation than ensued but it didn't take much to figure it out. The captain motioned for his buddy to get in the water. Clearly not something his buddy wanted to do based on his body language, but after about 5 mins he finally did and they slowly pushed themselves out to deeper water. Great entertainment for us while we waited for the tide to rise and float us off. Nothing like back bay sailing to teach you all about the tides and how to get yourself out of a "sticky" situation.
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here ya go! 36ft and 2ft draft! (board up) it's in Fla though

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Last fall I spent the better part of an evening on a wing keeled boat, an O'Day 272 that had gone aground in LI Sound. Of course the tidal range there was about 8 feet so when all the water ebbed out the damn boat stood up on the beach until the water flooded back in again.
Wing keels are not good for groundings - IMHO.
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Thank you for all of your input. I leaning toward selling the Catalina 22 Capri with the thoughts of buying a smaller trailerable design. The home that I am buying is at the absolute southern end of the island (Ocean City, NJ), and very close to the ramp at Corsons Inlet.
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