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If budget is a big concern, other reasons to start smaller / cheaper are...

1. To get to know what you want. Before I bought a boat I had a list of what was important and not important, and these drastically changed after I had a boat for a while. For instance, planning on longish cruises in the future, I originally had a shower on my must have list for a long term boat. I could obviously do without it on a short term boat. What I found is for me and my family, we do not need a shower, and would MUCH rather have the few extra feet of space for other things. We can stay clean without a shower, people did for many, many years before the first pressure water shower came along. Many other items on the want / need lists changed too, from cockpit size and layout to cabin arrangements, etc. We still can not afford the boat we REALLY want, but now have a boat we REALLY like, even though it is a compromise of many things.

Before having a boat (or at least sailing a lot) when I looked at boats to buy I saw a whole different set of features then I do when I look at a boat now, somethings I used to drool over I know see as impractical.

These are the types of things that are very individual to each person and opinions on what is important will vary widely. The only way to know what is important to you in a long term boat you invest a lot of money in is to get some experience on boats.

2. Being on a very limited budget there was no way we could afford the boat we originally wanted. by starting small (21 foot) when we moved up, our 32 foot feels amazingly huge and spacious! Wow, a head with a door, dedicated berths for everyone in the family (dual quarter births) we are in heaven! If we had started here, we would likely be more discontent and wish we could afford a boat with actual separate cabins for everyone, rather then just quarter berths, etc. If budget is not a major issue, this might not be so important, but for us I think it has allowed us to be happier with our limited luxuries then we may have otherwise been.



So I guess my advice would be get a cheaper boat you can have a ton of fun on now, and worry about the perfect long term boat later, once you know more about what you personally really want.

Best of luck to you,
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If you eventually want blue water cruising, here are a few I cribbed from Twenty Small Sailboats to Take You Anywhere in descending order of desirability for deep water ocean sailing:
Albin Vega 27
Folkboat 25
Contessa/J.J. Taylor 26
Cape Dory 25D
Pacific Sea Craft 25
Cal 20
I would add Pacific Seacraft's Dana 24 to this list, though they certainly aren't cheap.

I think I'd also add the Nor'Sea 27, the PSC Orion 27, and the PSC Flicka 20. All blue water capable small boats.

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LAST, last, last, last, last boat.

We're now on our 5th last boat. And I swear, I really mean it, this is the last boat.

We've had a 22, 28, 36, 52, and now a 38 foot boat. The first 3 were about 4 years a piece, the 52 for 10 years, and now the 38 for a couple... and I gotta say that 22 footer was a lot of fun. We did a lot of short range coastal cruising on it, learned to fix it ourselves, and didn't miss the creature comforts we now take for granted. Every boat taught us something. Every boat took us someplace new, both figuratively and literally.

Fun is not proportional to water line. Its about sailing. Get a boat now and get out there!
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The Dana 24 and Flicka 20 are great examples of hype exceeding value. Two decade old examples selling for $1- 1.8K per foot is, IMO, stunning.
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Do you have an idea of what you would like to spend?

Chris

PS - I have an ulterior motive in asking, as we have a boat for sale.
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I think it might be worth NOT getting gradually larger boats. Assuming a sailor has some experience in smaller boats, and has made concrete long range plans to go cruising (say in 6 years). It may be more effective to get the boat that you are going to eventually sail away in. You could gradually start to refit the boat, and learn how to sail it very well.
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I would add Pacific Seacraft's Dana 24 to this list, though they certainly aren't cheap... PSC Flicka 20. All blue water capable small boats.

Jeff
These two were also in the book, but I thought too expensive
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I bought something I liked. And it's turned into a monster. I'm glad I didn't buy the 30 footer that was on craig's list.
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I bought something I liked. And it's turned into a monster. I'm glad I didn't buy the 30 footer that was on craig's list.
ROFL... You're a monster...on the race course!
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AS someone above wrote, 22' feet is very manageable for learning or keeping.
My Cape Dory 22 is wonderful to sail AND beautiful to just look at.
It takes little tme to keep it that way.
When you get up to 30' keepng it looking nice is hard work
and costs alot, too.
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