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Yikes! For that price an Autoprop seems reasonable..
Maybe not so much when you take into account Autoprop's propensity for throwing blades.

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Fortunately they don't seem to make one for a one and a half inch shaft so I don't need to even think about it.
Sure they do. Look further along to the right on the price sheet.
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I called PYI today and no they don't have 1.5 inch yet. It's due out in June/July - "Maybe" according to Fred at PYI.
He did tell me that they are selling better than they ever expected and have yet to see any problems. I'll take that at face value because it's not been on the market for anywhere near a year yet.
So maybe not having one for a 1.5" shaft is a blessing. I'll put my purchase off a year and see what bugs pop up.

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You might want to take a look at Variprop too. I was ready to purchase one before I found Kiwi. 5k for the ecowind is a little steep.
As far as changing the pitch of a maxprop in the water. I have 40 years diving experiance and trying to hold the parts, line up the letters and dots, assuming you can see them and not drop anything. Forget it. For $150 I can do a short haul and be done in 20 mins. That being said I would never buy a maxprop again because it.
The ecowind looks like a much better choice and it's a one piece install but ouch!

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As far as changing the pitch of a maxprop in the water. I have 40 years diving experiance and trying to hold the parts, line up the letters and dots, assuming you can see them and not drop anything. Forget it.
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Maybe not so much when you take into account Autoprop's propensity for throwing blades.


Sure they do. Look further along to the right on the price sheet.
You keep talking about Autoprops throwing blades, and I've read all the threads, I'd like to see some actual, verifiable, numbers of blades thrown. My last boat had one for 15+ years with no trouble, still going strong.

All I see on the price sheet for the Ecowind and 1.5" shaft is "NA".

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You keep talking about Autoprops throwing blades, and I've read all the threads, I'd like to see some actual, verifiable, numbers of blades thrown. My last boat had one for 15+ years with no trouble, still going strong.
I have personally seen two Autoprops that have thrown blades. I have seen exactly zero thrown blades on any other non-fixed prop (and there are a hell of a lot more of them in the water than Autoprop.) Then when you add all the many anecdotes available on this and other forums, also complaining of thrown blades, I'd say the evidence is pretty good that it is an issue. Not to mention that Brunton issued a recall on Autoprop some years ago to supposedly rectify this problem.

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All I see on the price sheet for the Ecowind and 1.5" shaft is "NA".
Well, as previously posted, the larger sized Ecowind props are not on the market yet.

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I have personally seen two Autoprops that have thrown blades. I have seen exactly zero thrown blades on any other non-fixed prop (and there are a hell of a lot more of them in the water than Autoprop.) Then when you add all the many anecdotes available on this and other forums, also complaining of thrown blades, I'd say the evidence is pretty good that it is an issue. Not to mention that Brunton issued a recall on Autoprop some years ago to supposedly rectify this problem.
Any idea whether those particular props had either been recently serviced, or perhaps hadn’t been serviced in a LONG time? Re-assembly of an Autoprop after a bearing replacement/rebuild can be a bit tricky to get right, I can easily imagine an owner or someone not familiar with them getting it wrong… Or, perhaps, not heeding the warning signs of increased “rumbling”, a sign it’s time for a reconditioning… Lots of owners out there who are clueless to that sort of stuff, after all… Otherwise, I have a tough time imagining a new or properly maintained Autoprop which had not been subject to some sort of impact or damage, throwing a blade for no good reason...

I’ve been a very satisfied Autoprop user for about a dozen years… Just replaced the bearings and races for the second time, and should be as good as new again for another few years…

BTW, the recall from Bruntons was only for a narrow range of their props of a certain size, sold between 1999 and 2002 or thereabouts…
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Sure they do. Look further along to the right on the price sheet.[/QUOTE]

This is what I was responding to. So I was right that they don't make one for 1.5".

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So I was right that they don't make one for 1.5".
If you read Breezin's post, you'll see that they do make it that size but it simply isn't available for a few months yet.
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Any idea whether those particular props had either been recently serviced, or perhaps hadn’t been serviced in a LONG time? …
Couldn't say. It's been years since these two went bad. I don't remember if I ever knew the history of the two props in question. I just know that what I saw and what I've heard, doesn't happen to other props.
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