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I wouldn't recommend using climbing harnesses, since they're too low and will generally drag someone who falls overboard HEAD DOWN. A sailing harness is a chest harness and above the person's center of gravity, and will generally drag them through the water head up. The marine child-sized harnesses tend to have the attachment points on the back, which means they will be facing aft when being dragged through the water and have the least chance of drowning.
Child climbing harnesses aren't built like adult ones. Kids harnesses are full-body with the attachment high on the chest b/c kids have a much higher center of gravity and they'd flip over if they were tied in at the waist like adult harnesses.

Also, they clip into a tether that wouldn't allow them to go over the side. Basically it's just long enough for them to sit on the seats closest to the companionway. This is partly for safety, but it's mostly child management.
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Ahh...the point about drowning is still valid..since a boat moving at more than a couple knots would force water into their faces... but good to know you're aware of the issues.
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Child climbing harnesses aren't built like adult ones. Kids harnesses are full-body with the attachment high on the chest b/c kids have a much higher center of gravity and they'd flip over if they were tied in at the waist like adult harnesses.

Also, they clip into a tether that wouldn't allow them to go over the side. Basically it's just long enough for them to sit on the seats closest to the companionway. This is partly for safety, but it's mostly child management.
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Child climbing harnesses aren't built like adult ones. Kids harnesses are full-body with the attachment high on the chest b/c kids have a much higher center of gravity and they'd flip over if they were tied in at the waist like adult harnesses.

Also, they clip into a tether that wouldn't allow them to go over the side. Basically it's just long enough for them to sit on the seats closest to the companionway. This is partly for safety, but it's mostly child management.
Most of us understood what you were saying wonk. Sounds like a very safe way to go.

Duck-taping them to the bulkhead works pretty well too.
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Velcro is better, since you can move them around and re-use it...
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Most of us understood what you were saying wonk. Sounds like a very safe way to go.

Duck-taping them to the bulkhead works pretty well too.
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When we started out, we knew very little (we learned to sail on YouTube). What we did learn was that we wanted to start out small and cheap, with a lot of help in checking out potential boats.

We started with a 1972 Columbia 26 and learned to sail on her. We only paid around $1500 for her, and were able to get our money back when we upgraded. A sturdy and stable boat, and there are many of them still around.

We moved up to a 31 footer and had that for almost a year. She was a great boat, but with the wife and I, and two other grown kids, it could become a bit snug on over night adventures.

We ended up with a 36 footer that is a nice fit. Enough room to comfortably sleep six and a large enough cockpit for eight. I also recommend wheel steering, especially if you have kids. A tiller can whip around with waves if you are moving slowly and don't have it tied down. We've had a few sore ribs from that, and kids could get hurt.
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