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Here's a worldwide search of boats under $10K... Contrast and compare and some of these will appear obviously better candidates, assuming they've been kept in good condition.. or at least have 'good bones'.

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I sailed Catalina 27 in ocean for a few days, and it is most definitely not ocean going vessel.
Hey! Just curious... What about the boat, compared to others, did you not consider ocean going?

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John Vigor also states that the original spreader sockets may be cast aluminum and crack. Some early boats had pipe nipples glassed into the hull for through hull fittings. The standing rigging needs to be one size larger. Also need self steering gear. Avoid shoal-draft keels and inboard engines. The tall-rig, aft-galley, deep keel is preferred. And, keep the boat light.
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Avoid inboard engines?

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Yeah, forget about Trans-Atlantic, how about the Northwest Passage, instead?

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LakeSuperiorGeezer==avoid inboard engines??? i wouldn't go across the atlantic with an outboard engine. what is your reason for that advice ?

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Northwest Passage?? The Catalina 27 is not an offshore boat and most certainly not an icebreaker.

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LakeSuperiorGeezer==avoid inboard engines??? i wouldn't go across the atlantic with an outboard engine. what is your reason for that advice ?
John Vigor states that half the Catalina 27s are fitted with inboard engines, but when the deck and cockpit are bolted on after engine installation it is almost impossible to service and therefore is neglected. Also, an outboard will free up a lot of stowage space. There is an outboard well, but John recommends mounting a 9.9 horsepower (or as low as 5 horsepower for use when not enough wind to sail) on the transom. An outboard propeller can also be raised out of the water and the boat speed will increase, unlike the inboard; the 5 horsepower outboard can be also be used on an inflatable dinghy (would need to swap propellers, but that is easily done).

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Hey! Just curious... What about the boat, compared to others, did you not consider ocean going?
Narrow, almost non existent side decks. It is just plainly dangerous to walk on a boat.
Twisty. In any sea the boat is hard to steer, it is tiring thing to do. It is just bobbing around, not precise. This actually surprised me since so much said about good sailing ability of C27. I understand it is small boat, however handling was not precise and direct as I'd expect from sort of "performance " boat. It wasn't "running on rails" either. Loose, in one word.
With wind building up to around 22-25 knots the boat become less and less
manageable. I had a feeling that the boat has a limit, and limit was near.

Companionway is an obvious thing.

On another side I was surprised by sturdiness of the built. Boat looked and felt solid (it was early 70-s boat)
I liked interior too. Layout, I mean, it is quite functional for two.

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With an outboard a Catalina 27 is not as suitable for offshore in my and others' opinions. I have 2 neighbors with Cat 27's. One with a diesel and it is a solid coastal cruiser, no cutout in the transom, no volatile fuel to mess with and store, and almost twice the miles/gallon as with an outboard as diesels are more efficient. I can't imagine either leaving an outboard mounted on the transom cutout or fighting with removal/replacement in any but calm water. If it is removed you also have to store it safely somewhere. In any sloppy sea the outboard is not efficient, the prop leaving the water some of the time. The other neighbor suffers with the outboard and its issues. For daysailing it works, but not for offshore.

There are circumstances when an engine can be needed NOW, not after you remove it from storage and install it.

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