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Hey Mike I wouldn't go so far as to nuk them and yes you're right there is such a thing as personal responsibility.I am not a deep water sailor but if I was and I was to pass the gulg of aden I'd prefer carrying guns not bibles.
None the less as far as sea transportation is concerned,Gibraltar strates,Panama and Suez canals are the three most strategic points.What would you say if tomorrow the Panama goverment shut down the canal?And if Morocan goverment put missiles in the entarnce of the straits?
YES the 2 canals werent there 100 years before but there they are now and our planet,our global society is making progress.We should not head back( or make circles...).
I am just wondering...How many ships have been captured so far?500-600?All of them had to pay what,a couple million dollars each?Hmm, so these guys (the pirates) are getting bigger and stronger.Whats next?
Hey I am not sailing in that area and I probably wont be sailing there any time soon but as a sailor I feel for all the people that either work on cargo ships and the y ve got families to feed either they took their nice yacht to make their dream come true.I say it is time for some land operations and air strikes.These guys are controlling the highway of the seas and that is unacceptable .
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They were with the Blue Water Rally but left on their own a few days ago...

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The Blue Water Rally is very distressed to learn of the hijacking of SV Quest on 18th February. Scott and Jean Adam joined the Oz-Med section of the Blue Water Rally just before Christmas and had been sailing with the rally from Phuket as far as Mumbai. Quest had taken on board two well known rally participants: Phyllis Mackay and Bob Riggle. However, she chose to take an independent route from Mumbai to Salalah, leaving the Rally on 15 February. All information is now being handled by the US Central Command and their spokesman in Dubai.
We feel desperately sorry for our four friends onboard and our thoughts are with them and their friends and family. All the yachts still on the rally are fine and well.

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It also seems that the USS Momsen is (or was 5 hours ago...) "on the scene": Sailboat Hijacking UPDATE – USS Momsen (DDG 92) on scene*|*gCaptain
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These guys are controlling the highway of the seas and that is unacceptable .
I absolutely agree. Perhaps we could organize armed warship escorts a few times a month so that commercial ships as well as private vessels could travel the route in safety. We already have the ships and the men and any additional costs could be borne by the commercial shippers or their insurance companies. I'm sure it would be a net savings for them. And if we accidentally kill a hundred Somali pirates, well......oops>

Just no more wars.....pretty please?

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The only safe route from the Pacific to the Med these days is via Cape Town and that is a heck of an additional stretch. Cocos, Chagos, Aden, Suez to Gibralter is 6900nm, Cocos, Chagos, Mauritius, Richards Bay, Durban, Cape Town, Canaries, Gibralter is 10200nm.

However, if you want to avoid Somalians these days, the last stop anyone should contemplate in the upper part of the Indian Ocean is Chagos (I was going to say Northern Indian Ocean but Chagos is actually 6 degrees S) and from there a drop directly to Mauritius and from there to South Africa (or if you're into real 3rd world, southern Mozambique).

That route will avoid pirates (the Chagos area is actively patrolled by the Royal Navy and the US Navy) as well as the Mozambique Channel/Agulhas Stream.

Would I sail 3300nm to ensure I'm safe from Somalians? You bet.
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say a prayer for their safe return and perhaps our Navy will open one of these on the pirates...
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It now seems that the report about the warship on its way was false... The USS Momsen is on its way home, not to rescue these folks. gCaptain has retracted that story as an error. That's too bad b/c I came back online, hoping to hear some good news -- that they had rescued these people before they reached Somalia, although engaging with these pirates could also have meant a tragedy as well... I'll continue to pray for the crew's safety.
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These people were 400 miles from Somalia, in the Indian ocean. Just how far around do you need to go?

No ransom should ever be paid, and the criminals should be dealt with as all pirate have been in the past.
I'd say Cape of Good Hope would be a good choice.
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I will also say a prayer for the safe return of all hostages.
Picked this up on my Sunday morning trawl of the net.

Insurers to set up 'private navy' to combat piracy | News | Pbo

Sail-World.com : U.S. considers military action after pirate seajacking

Sail-World.com : Yacht pirate Seajack:'Wake up and see' convoy leader tells politicians
Sail-World.com : Pirate given 34 years jail - but will it deter?

International Navy ships can,t act for red tape, with the notable exception of the French, so maybe its time to remember the old adage, God also helps those who help themselves.
Vive la France despite the unfortunate loss of life. All loss of life in these circumstances must be laid on the conscience of the pirates.
Personally I would rather a rescue attempt than be profited upon by these thieves and murderers.
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I absolutely agree. Perhaps we could organize armed warship escorts a few times a month so that commercial ships as well as private vessels could travel the route in safety. We already have the ships and the men and any additional costs could be borne by the commercial shippers or their insurance companies. I'm sure it would be a net savings for them. And if we accidentally kill a hundred Somali pirates, well......oops>

Just no more wars.....pretty please?

Mike

I am not a great supporter of America's forays into international intervention but you know this is an international problem that does require international effort. Its much like Bush #1's effort to free Kuwait. It would receive broad based support and it is an issue of Freedom of the seas that is critical to each and every country and their well being. Virtually every military adventure GWB went on was dumb but some times just sometimes in the right situation its time to dust off that old line from the song that goes "the sands of Tripoli" and remember why they put that line in the song. Then act accordingly. This is a problem that will only have a military solution.
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