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My prayers are with the family, friends and compatriots of these poor souls.
Revenge that will not heal these wounds, justice will.
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Very sad. Killing an American should be intolerable and any other who may even consider it should learn why. I would hope all would feel the same about their own countrymen. Make an example of the survivors. Three hots and a cot in prison, where they assume the rights of a citizen, is an upgrade to their lifestyle. That's not acceptable to me.
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Ok I have a problem with this statement "Killing an American should be intolerable and any other who may even consider it should learn why" I would hope however that this inciedent will make it possible to finally do something about it though. Killing any law abiding individual cruising in any water should be intolerable and result in action.
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Ok I have a problem with this statement "Killing an American should be intolerable and any other who may even consider it should learn why" Killing any law abiding individual cruising in any water should be intolerable. Not just an American!
Did you miss the next sentence?
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yes i did at first note my edit
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The U.S. government will never do anything about this. There is no oil in Somalia and so nothing for our politicians to steal.
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Why are these asshats still alive? Take 'em back to one of the ports they operate out of in Somalia, try them with the Captain acting as judge, then Hang them in full view of their buddies on shore.....no 'lose rope....drop-snap' hanging either. Haul 'em up by the neck and let 'em dance.
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The Adams knew what they were getting into. It appears that they chose to go by themselves and also took a more dangerous route than necessary (see our article for sources of this information: http://nasailor.com/2011/02/20/somalian-pirates-hijack-sailing-vessel-carrying-four-americans/).

So for their personal situation, I can't get fired up about getting the military involved to save them. They knew the risks and acted of their own accord. There are other ways to get to the Med. So why should my taxpayer dollars be spent to save them?

But agree that the bigger question is why isn't more being done overall to combat this problem, for both commercial and non-commercial ships. If international governments can't work together to address the problem I think the idea of using a private navy to escort ships through the area is a good one. But personally I would never attempt pirate alley, even if it meant adding thousands of miles to my trip.

I agree with this, some very very bad decisions were made here for whatever reasons, whether misguided well-intentioned zealotry, sense of purpose, or whatever ... they left a flotilla and took huge risks (based on what I read) ... a sad result but not unforeseeable unfortunately.

The captain bears responsibility for the decisions.
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How do you deal with the varying gun laws in different countries?
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How do you deal with the varying gun laws in different countries?
Nah, the Rambos who will never venture very far from Fortress America aboard a cruising boat prefer to ignore that question... (grin)

I, too, would be curious to know how many different countries he has checked in an out of while in possession of an arsenal of weaponry sufficient to defeat a boatload of Somalis with AK-47s? Or, where he would hide it aboard a modest boat such as mine, to ensure against detection by the authorities when checking into a place like Havana, for example?

He does know that those dogs the Cubans bring aboard are trained to sniff out something other than drugs, no?
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