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post #21 of 53 Old 03-07-2011
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I would probably have a rather different opinion of this if my son was the first engineer on the tanker.
Ain't that the truth!

I can assure you, with 100% surity, that it is somebody's son or daughter who is first engineer on each of those hijacked ships.

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The thing is that the Somalian pirate situation is not going to go away until the insurance companies decide that the ships + cargoes are not worth the ransom.

The crew ? Perlease. That requires a degree of compassion and somehow 'insurance company' and 'compassion' do not sit well together. Throw 'pirates' into the mix and its lay down misere.

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All kidding aside, for us the only real solution is to forget the Med-Suez-Aden route. The round the cape, up to Durban and then off to Australia route looks better all the time.

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That would have been absurd (case in point, see the post directly above this one).
Wassa matter Cal, haven't you learned to "Love the Bomb"?

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"What's needed is an international force with boots on the ground, but not on the scale of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those commitments of money, time and blood have worn on the U.S. and its allies. Neither should the U.S. attempt a reprise of its 1993 foray into Mogadishu.
Instead, teams of small, elite forces, such as our own Green Berets, Britain's Special Air Service and Russia's Spetsnaz GRU, should be sent in to oust the warlords in targeted, coordinated attacks.
Such groups specialize in reconnaissance, counterterrorism, unconventional warfare and hostage rescue. Nimble, stealthy units would be less costly to support, and their operations could be augmented by naval air power.
The next step, far more daunting, is restoring a functioning Somali government. But first, let's dislodge these criminals and make the region safe again for shipping.
This has been a time of change for northern Africa. It should be Somalia's turn now."


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When predicting the course of human events, the very best strategy is always to "follow the money". At some point, the cost of piracy to insurers and/or shipping companies will become so great as to force a solution. This will most likely take the form of military action, ie. "kill the pirates". Independent yachtsmen can do nothing except wait for this outcome. In the meantime, if there's bears in the woods, I ain't in the woods no more. Simple as that.

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it seems even of the pirates get caught nothing happens to them, so the lure of making millions when everyone else in the country is living on $1 per day or less becomes extremely appealing, huge gains with minimal risk.
Agreed!!!!!!! That's why they need a stronger deterrent: DEATH

either after a trial or on the spot at sea. I prefer the latter. They are pirates and what happens to pirates?? They die!!
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This is the chest thumping rambo stuff I asked we avoid in my first post.....It sounds great....but come on, really keel haul the pirates?????

It is 2011, how is any western country......especially yours(US) going to start hanging/keel people in the en masse, without any judicial process and get away with it??? (In International waters death=death!!)

I could get a response like that from a group of 11 year old school boys....what I want to know is what can be done, that would actually make a difference??
What answer are you looking for???????? Death as a deterrent is the most effective way of stopping PIRATES. What would you have the UN do??? Sit down and educate the pirates. Hmmmmmm.....let me see......."Ok you bad pirates, don't you know killing is berry berry bad. Shame on you, no mo pirating please."
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