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Good people,
Any discussion re the rights and/or wrongs of whales or nuclear energy is really not appropriate to this thread. By all means start a couple of new ones and go for it but lets keep this one for messages re the plight of the Japanese people or other suffering from the after effects of the Quake and Tsunami.
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Any discussion re the rights and/or wrongs of whales or nuclear energy is really not appropriate to this thread. By all means start a couple of new ones and go for it but lets keep this one for messages re the plight of the Japanese people or other suffering from the after effects of the Quake and Tsunami.
Sorry, Fuzzy. But one of those effects appears to be a partial (at least) meltdown at one (at least) of their nuclear plants.
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I agree this is not the place for the "nuclear discussion" start a different thread

TDW you were the one first to unleash this in the thread.

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you are right SlowbutSteady NOTHING(yeah yelling make the point better)is 100%, as long as the safeguards are the best you can make them then That is what should be done, If you going to go with he 100% argument please let me know when your going to apply this to your daily life, or please become the one to design the 100% Safe power plant that will have a 0% impact on the Environment,. i do not yet know of anyone that has a 100% safeguard on anything. Will you now stop driving your car, sailing your Boat walking to work, living.... and wait for the 100% safeguard on all of these things before you go on living? Nothing is 100% safe, but I am sure you will keep on living with you less then 100% Life. and debating the issue of clean safe Nuclear might go over better in another thread.
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I have no problem with anyone or everyone discussing nuclear plants and whether they are appropriate. I will even get into the debate. But I agree with TDW - move it to another thread and Off Topic. Right here in this thread, my heart is breaking for the Japanese people and this is the place to discuss that and the current events unfolding there. I'm scared to death that WWII may be pale compared to this (in Japanese mainland terms).
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you are right SlowbutSteady NOTHING(yeah yelling make the point better)is 100%, as long as the safeguards are the best you can make them then That is what should be done, If you going to go with he 100% argument please let me know when your going to apply this to your daily life, or please become the one to design the 100% Safe power plant that will have a 0% impact on the Environment,. i do not yet know of anyone that has a 100% safeguard on anything. Will you now stop driving your car, sailing your Boat walking to work, living.... and wait for the 100% safeguard on all of these things before you go on living? Nothing is 100% safe, but I am sure you will keep on living with you less then 100% Life. and debating the issue of clean safe Nuclear might go over better in another thread.
If the core of one of these reactors has a significant meltdown (which appears to have already happened) and its containment vessel fails (which may also have happened) the fall-out that will be (or perhaps are currently being) released will take BILLIONS OF YEARS (yes, I'm yelling; and, no, that's not an exaggeration) to decay. Please point us to anything else with such consequences.
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I have no problem with anyone or everyone discussing nuclear plants and whether they are appropriate. I will even get into the debate. But I agree with TDW - move it to another thread and Off Topic. Right here in this thread, my heart is breaking for the Japanese people and this is the place to discuss that and the current events unfolding there. I'm scared to death that WWII may be pale compared to this (in Japanese mainland terms).
Yes, this is bad; horrific even. But, Japan had something on the order of half a million or more civilian deaths during WW2. The Tokyo firestorms alone killed about 100,000. As bad as this is, there's no way it's going to get that bad. In fact, there probably won't be nearly the number of deaths as were the result of the 1923 Tokyo quake (~100,000).

If any country can handle this sort of disaster, it's Japan. I have no doubt that their response will make our own government's response to recent disasters look even more wanting than it already does.
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I agree this is not the place for the "nuclear discussion" start a different thread

TDW you were the one first to unleash this in the thread.
Chef , I think thats somewhat unfair. I mentioned only that the reactors were 'going feral'. I made no comment on the good or bad, the rights or wrongs, the wisdom or stupidity of Nuclear. That the reactors are 'going feral' is part of the tragedy and is applicable to this thread. A discussion on the pros and cons of Nuclear is not. (or whaling for that matter)
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Any discussion re the rights and/or wrongs of whales or nuclear energy is really not appropriate to this thread. By all means start a couple of new ones and go for it but lets keep this one for messages re the plight of the Japanese people or other suffering from the after effects of the Quake and Tsunami.
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