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It looks like a MacGregor 26D. Profile and portlights look right. and there seems to be an outboard well on the port side of the transom. If it is an M26D, they are a swing keel boat, with a transom-hung rudder; only about a foot draft with keel up.

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Okay, I was finally able to view scraph's first link that he posted (it wouldn't spool for me earlier). I had only seen the capsized boat in the other footage.

Definitely a sailboat, and not 35'. I agree it looks like a McGregor. Did the 26D have water ballast?


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Here's the boat (from SA):



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Yessir, that's definitely a MacGregor. The question remains whether it is a centerboard or daggerboard model (it seems to have gone from a daggerboard, to swing centerboard, and back to daggerboard over its history) and I can' make out either of the bottom features on the picture above. Either way ... the keels do not provide substantial stability by ballast. With 1150lbs of water ballast and only 300lbs of fixed ballast (installed inside hull of a boat drafting 1.25' (keel up)). The concern then with static stability is not whether a keel was installed (of either sort ... or whether it fell away) but whether the water ballast tank was filled. This is sure sounding like there was no water ballast... absent that, the 300lbs of fixed ballast would have no ability to right the capsized boat with survivors clinging on.

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Did the 26D have water ballast?
All MacGregor 26s are water ballasted. 300# permanent, 1150# water ballast. The only difference over the history of the boat seems to be whether it is swing keel or daggerboard (D in this case means daggerboard).

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So sad. In the article from fox along with the video clip, it states that the boat was a rental. That could not be right and if it is should not be right.
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Edit: So, while I was looking for a pic of the 26D (and making lunch for my daughter) a lot of other people beat me to this conclusion. :P

But yes, the 26D was water ballasted.

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Dunno...sorta looks like a 26D to me...



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Just curious (since i live another life as an occasional private pilot): In the airplane world, an event like this would possibly warrant an "airworthiness directive" if it were found to be related to a mechanical or structural problem.

For example: all Mac 26 owners are advised to place a placard warning the user (captain) to ensure that the swing keel is in a deployed and locked down position prior to entering deep water.

Does the coast guard or AYBC or anyone else have any authority to issue these type of directives/warnings/consumer advisories?
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Just curious (since i live another life as an occasional private pilot): In the airplane world, an event like this would possibly warrant an "airworthiness directive" if it were found to be related to a mechanical or structural problem.

For example: all Mac 26 owners are advised to place a placard warning the user (captain) to ensure that the swing keel is in a deployed and locked down position prior to entering deep water.

Does the coast guard or AYBC or anyone else have any authority to issue these type of directives/warnings/consumer advisories?
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To think that all they wanted was a beautiful day on the water just as we all enjoy. I wonder if any of the survivors will ever step foot on a boat again. So sad.

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