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I just want to sail away..

For awhile....

Tell me guys, I know this isn't exactly an original idea that I am having here. But I would like to know the reality of it.

Here I am a "Land Lubber", Been on a power boat a lot and even out on the peuget sound a few times in a big boat for fishing. But NEVER a S.V.

What i want to do:

Learn to sail, I live in Colorado and I plan to take the A.S.A Basic keel Boat course and Coastal cruising course to get my liscence and be able to sail up to a 30' on my own. There is a school in denver that offers the two courses at a really good price.

Next,, Sve a Ton of $$ over the next 2 years.. i'm thinking 15k at min..

Next buy a Sail boat 25 to 28 feet somewhere on the east coast or in the gulf for $5000 or less.. (I have found A LOT of good deals in this price range). Hopefully it will be fully outfitted at this price as many I hav found are.

I figure my first trip acrossed the gulf stream I will be fully loaded with enough food to see me through 3 months so i'm not waisting money in the islands,, then top off again on the way back through to the keys..


Next,, Sail away! I am looking at 1-2 years depending on how it all goes. I figure with 10k in the bank I can live pretty good as a ocean hobo for awhile. I want to explore the caribian, and Florida keys. If I get really really good at sailing I will venture to Cazumel and maybe even Jamaica before making my way back to Florida or other mainland area to work again for a year before hopefully heading for europe for a year or two..

How can I do this? I have no wife, no kids, No debt and a good job that pays well enough that I can put away desent amounts each month. Atleast $400 a month right now..

I am also in the mean time looking for that perfect girl to travel with me, but i'm not getting my hopes up on that one..

So, what do you think? Am I missing anything obvious? Does it sound like i'm covering my bases pretty well? I do understand that A boat is nothing more than a hole in the water that can only be filled with money.... But I am hoping I choose well and get a decent one that doesn't need much more than some elbow grease and TLC...


Any suggestions? Also, where are some hot spots for novice hobo boaters in the caribian that might want to just hang out on there boat and not really be bothered? I've heard Conception island is Great for this. But so far, i've just been reading and google earthing seeing if I see anything I like from afar.

Thanks, guys.

Sincerely
Guy not trying to dround...
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Oh, List of skills,,

To improve your faith in my abilities to captain a boat, I can,,

operate a Snowcat (I groomed for 8 years at beaver creek ski resort).
I can Drive a semi truck with a plow on snowy mountain roads. ( Did that for 2 years,

I can ride any motorcycle I get my hands on and i'm a pretty darn good driver with a clean record.

Think I can captain a small S.V??

I think what scares me the most is getting caught out in a storm and dying because I was to dumb to give myself the right orders!!
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Learn to sail, I live in Colorado and I plan to take the A.S.A Basic keel Boat course and Coastal cruising course to get my liscence and be able to sail up to a 30' on my own. There is a school in denver that offers the two courses at a really good price.
One point to consider is that you don't really need a "license" to sail non-commercially. Particularly to sail your own boat. And certainly not a license by boat size. I think most states require you to take some sort of boater safety course, but that's pretty trivial compared to ASA 101. The ASA or USSailing certificate series can look good on a sailing resume for chartering, but it isn't even required for that. (Outside of certain parts of Europe that want an International Competency Certificate)

That's not to say you shouldn't take the course; the ASA class is a good start.
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Ya might not like sailing as its a bit of work to keep a boat moving 24/7 on the trips you cant do in a day

So i would look into a bit more before taking the full plunge

If tends to cost money to enter a lot of your dream places and various states will want a piece of the pie if you stay over time X

The further you go away from the coast the more important safety equipment becomes and its not cheep
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Two books to get

Cost Conscious Cruiser by the Pardeys

Shrimpy by Shane Acton

Two different approaches to sailing on a small budget and more importantly both written by people who 'Walked the walk'.

As to costing you money to enter other than the Bahamas [$150 if <35feet]the entry taxes and crusing permits in the Caribbean are reasonable with the French Islands leading the way with ZERO cost to enter and cruise. [ Mind you in St Barts it is an arm and a leg to anchor!]

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I don't mind the work.. aside from it giving me something to do to keep my mind off the fact i'm in the ocean. It's good exercise.Plus, I don't plan to be underway all the time. I will likely find a nice secluded cove and chill for a few weeks. hen move on to the next.

I plan to take the courses 101 & 103 mainly because I believe in training and learning as much as I can before taking on a new task.

I understand that many areas require entry fees and docking fees. As for entry I will budget for those as I can. As for docking, it's a last resort I plan to almost always anchor out, and dinghy in.

Before even casting off the plan is to top the boat off with enough food and maybe enough water for three months. I figure that's about 6 or 7 hundred $$ And that's being generous. that plus extra fueling in the bahamas and maybe a few visits ashore should be around 1K..

This means if I can go every 3 months for a thousand dollars it would cost me 4k just to feed and fuel myself at seas. I would make sure I have a few thousand in the bank otherwise for any unforeseen repairs..

Maybe i'm missing something but I think that part is all pretty doable.

I think the hard parts will be Learning to sail, Saving the money, picking a good boat and dealing with the riggers of being at sea on a daily basis.
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Hey, no reason not to go ahead.
I,ve had the boat for 6 years and need to get her to the Med some time soon.
Still its fun learning and I,m ready when the gold watch starts ticking.
Hope it works out.
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I can ride any motorcycle I get my hands on and i'm a pretty darn good driver with a clean record.

Think I can captain a small S.V??

I think what scares me the most is getting caught out in a storm and dying because I was to dumb to give myself the right orders!!
Frankly, riding motorcycle in across the country is much more dangerous than sailing across the Pond. At least sailing you can control how safe you want to be. Riding a bike, you life depends on the drivers around you.
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Piston,

Based on your sailing experience level you might want to
crew on a boat going to the areas you mentioned,
sort of a "trial run". It may be possible that being
confined to small quarters and basically camping on
a boat may not turn out to be what you thought it
would be?

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Piston,

A friend of mine mentioned that there was as 21 foot sail boat for sale, just up the street. 21 feet! That was enormous! Imagine owning a 21 foot boat! My, my!

So, a few years later I actually DID get into sailing and bought a 25 footer. It's amazing how small 25 feet is. Aim for 30. You can pick up a decent condition Catalina 30 for about 15K. Good boats.
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