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Exclamation New Moderation Rule

A forum is a place where people can openly share ideas and thoughts. Many of those ideas and thoughts are opinionated. As sailors, we are full of opinions. I remember a really old salt telling me once, "Ask four sailors the same questions and you will get five different answers." Such sage advice has never been more true.

The issue(s) that have come from this is that arguments ensue. I don't mind a good argument, but I have also come to the realization that some people simply are polar opposites and will NEVER get along. In the days, weeks, and years passed, these arguments follow around the board (and to other boards) and have resulted in a lot of bad blood between all involved. We have lost a lot of super members because of this. I genuinely believe that many of these members would still be here if they could have found a way to ignore the offensive poster, and likewise. Instead, the board as a whole is worse off.

Up until today, when these matters have happened, we have tried to reason with the arguing parties. We have threatened both and even given out bans when we felt it crossed the line. Unfortunately, it would not take long before (upon return) the posters were right back into it and we followed them around the board, cleaning up their posts and again trying to reason between them. It did not take long before we were at a loss for options.

There are many examples of these incidents and I point no finger at any party. It is just a sad reality of life that some people will never get along. Does not make either right or wrong, it just is.

I wanted to go into a long explanation of the circumstances leading up to this so everyone will understand why we are doing what we are doing. These issues have now forced us to reconsider our moderating options and we are in 100% agreement on a potential solution: Forced Ignore.

A forced ignore will not be used lightly. We realize that members want to know everything that is going on, etc. But when we as moderators feel that we are at the end of the line with reasoning and we see little other choice, we will enfore a Forced Ignore on both parties. What this means is that you will not be able to read anything posted by that poster and he will not be able to read anything posted by you. Neither will ever know the other is even there.

We will alert both parties ahead of time. We will give both parties a chance to rectify it on their own. We will also give both parties a chance to do the Ignore Function themselves. But after that point, we will instigate it.

If any member removes the Forced Ignore and replies to any post in any way to someone that was supposed to be on their ignore list, they will be banned for the remaining of the forced ignore. Repeat violations will get you permanently removed from this forum and your IP address blocked so you cannot even read Sailnet, much less participate in it. I hope that is crystal clear to EVERYONE.


The intention of this is to make the forum a better place for everyone - including those we Force Ignore. I hope everyone will see that. I also hope everyone will understand that it is a weapon of last resort and we have always tried to be fair even handed in our actions.

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WOW! sanity and civility on the web! Good for Sailnet.
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I could never understand why some people continue to argue. everyone is entitled to their opinion , but our purpose here should be to give good advise to anyone who asks for it, & try to help the other sailors.
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You mods are acting like such a dads!!

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Sounds reasonable since the level of civility seems to have waned.
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What this means is that you will not be able to read anything posted by that poster and he will not be able to read anything posted by you. Neither will ever know the other is even there.
Yep, I unreservedly support the principle because I agree that we don't want to reduce the brains trust of the board due to personal sniping but at the same time we don't want to make the board an old lady's tea party. Sometimes blatantly stupid or irresponsible posts have to be reacted to. It's a tough job, being a moderator.

But CD, you have just made your job (and all the other moderators) a whole lot tougher. Why? Well because the last thing we need now is for you to place a Forced Ignore on Member A and Member B which allows Member A to post whatever vitriol he wants about Member B safe in the knowledge that Member B will never get to read it and react. But the rest of the board will see it.

The moderators will have to be ever wary and control this element.

I hope that the members are responsible enough to see the value of the new rule and not abuse it but there is always one . . . .
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Yep, I unreservedly support the principle because I agree that we don't want to reduce the brains trust of the board due to personal sniping but at the same time we don't want to make the board an old lady's tea party. Sometimes blatantly stupid or irresponsible posts have to be reacted to. It's a tough job, being a moderator.

But CD, you have just made your job (and all the other moderators) a whole lot tougher. Why? Well because the last thing we need now is for you to place a Forced Ignore on Member A and Member B which allows Member A to post whatever vitriol he wants about Member B safe in the knowledge that Member B will never get to read it and react. But the rest of the board will see it.

The moderators will have to be ever wary and control this element.

I hope that the members are responsible enough to see the value of the new rule and not abuse it but there is always one . . . .
Just because a person is on ignore does not give anyone the right for personal attacks. That is not allowed no matter what. Would be a quick way for the offending party to earn a vacation.

The point of this is to make the board better. Those that would use this rule to its detriment wont be here for long. This is kinda the hail-marry pass. If a person does not get it, they will pursue excellence elswhere.

Brian

PS This was not directed at you... only answering the question.
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