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casey1999 05-06-2011 07:10 PM

Boat Aground In Annapolis, MD- Can someone help this man
 
8 feet of keel in a 4-foot lake Top Stories (www.HometownAnnapolis.com - The Capital)

Boat Aground In Annapolis, MD- Can someone help this man

pistonbully 05-06-2011 08:07 PM

Yikes,, Poor guy.

I was thinking floats right off the bat but with out anything for the floats to float against..

I just hate to think what pulling and tugging on the boat will eventually do to it damage wise. What about inlisting a bunch of people with boats to maneuver around it,, hook on to it (in a well coordinated effort ) to pull,, and while they are doing that maybe the engines will create enough chop and buoyancy to float it out a bit?



What about a really big boat comes by leaving a huge wake,, time it right and give a tug? Attempted a few times it might work,,,, but it might also just destroy the boat..

deniseO30 05-06-2011 09:17 PM

This is the first thing I thought of. could work maybe...

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SVAuspicious 05-07-2011 12:59 PM

I'll drive over and take a look this weekend. I think the owner's plan is about the best he is going to come up with. There isn't much water there. I know I don't fit and I don't draw as much as he.

CalebD 05-07-2011 03:15 PM

I've spent several overnights one creek up the South River from there in Harness Creek. It is quite shallow in there.
There must have been some hellacious weather to push that boat in there.

hellosailor 05-07-2011 07:11 PM

Without seeing drawings...I'd have to guess that by simple geometry, you can't heel a boat with an 8' draft far enough to get the keel out of the mud, until you've got the toerail well submerged. Which means flooding and sinking the boat.

At 84,000 pounds she's beyond helicopter lift capacity, too. that means they'll need a barge and crane to lift it and float it out, unless they really think they can kludge a lift "collar" around the hull that will raise four feet of it (essentially, everything but the keel) out of the water. At some 62# per cubic foot and maybe 75,000 pounds to lift? Easy, just rig about 1200 cubic feet of lift bag under the waterline. Capped PVC pipe, lift bags...

I leave it to someone else to figure out if that's gonna cost more than the barge and crane. :-)

Or hauling it ashore and making it into a hot dog stand?

TQA 05-07-2011 07:49 PM

Assuming the bottom is silt or sand what he needs is a dredger. Dredge a hole to float the boat then dredge a channel in front of the boat and drop the fill in behind it.

Essentially move the hole with the boat in it.

I saw something like it in Alaska with giant gold dredges that were actually moved across dry land in their own little pond.

No idea what it costs to rent a dredge but it might be worth it.

wingNwing 05-07-2011 08:00 PM

I'm sure EPA, or DNR, or some enviro agency, will want permits before dredging, ugh. But whazzup with the owner saying he "can't afford insurance" when confronted with the damage his boat did to the docked powerboat, and yet he has a $500K boat? Doesn't he have responsibility whether he's insured or not?

joethecobbler 05-08-2011 12:10 AM

As I read the article , I understood the owner to say that insurance for a 60 year old wood boat was difficult to get or possibly, not available. Not that he couldn't afford it.
I think, the insurance necessary to remedy the injuried party in this instance (the gentleman who was claiming his boat was damaged) would be liability isurance. And as I understand it this is not underwritten w/ necessarily the age of the vessel in consideration but rather the operator and intended use of the vessel.
As per the liability of the owner of the vessel causing the damage, I believe he would still be financially responsible,wether or not he is solvent for the damages is to be determined.
I read the comments of the readers on the linked sight and one poster indicated he had first hand knowledge of the parties involved and stated the damage amounted to a scratched or bent bow rail.
Also the injured party had come out on the dock and "yelled " at the grounded vessel's owner on numerous occasions and summonded the coast guard on more han one occasion hampering and delaying the efforts of the stranded vessel's crew/owner to effect the recovery !
What's wrong w/ people ?
This was obviously a misfortunate situation and not an intended action.
And a beautiful craft as well, I hope it gets floated. And it would be correct to see the damaged party made whole again as well, even if he seems to be acting a bit poorly.
just my observation.
would be curious to know how it plays out.

benajah 05-08-2011 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deniseO30 (Post 727913)
This is the first thing I thought of. could work maybe...

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That is just a brilliant idea


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