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ChessieSailor 05-13-2011 09:45 AM

22' capsizes in James River, 10 go in the drink
 
Va. authorities rescue 9, seek 1 in boat capsizing - Yahoo! News

Nine rescued, 1 missing after boat capsizes in James River | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

10 drunks on a midnight excursion in a (Cat?) 22? Motoring around, I'm guessing a few in the cockpit and the rest hanging over the rails, rocking from side to side... but unless it sprung a leak, that must have been some serious rolling to poop her!

And of course some eegit in the comments immediately trots out (L x W) / 15! So this means I can take 19 people aboard my 28.5/10.4 and have a nice trip. :confused:

rockDAWG 05-13-2011 10:44 AM

I am know it is wrong to say that but: Let them drown. Our society will be better off without them.

I feel better now. :(

solman55 05-13-2011 10:53 AM

This happens all to often and I am really surprised more people do not die from these things. That rule about capacity is way off and I don't know why people use it, yes the boat may be able to carry x amount of weight if it is properly loaded but when you have ten possibly intoxicated people aboard we all no the weight will all likely be up high and a few waves would probably be enough to topple it over. I do agree it would take a lot to roll the boat but I also have to wonder if the keel was all the way down what kind of boat was it etc. because a few simple mistakes as we have seen time and time again can ruin what was intended to be a nice cruise. I wish them luck but cannot help but agree with that natural selection has a lot to do with it.

Sublime 05-13-2011 10:56 AM

*massages temples* How do some people even make it across the street?

rockDAWG 05-13-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solman55 (Post 730001)
This happens all to often and I am really surprised more people do not die from these things. That rule about capacity is way off and I don't know why people use it, yes the boat may be able to carry x amount of weight if it is properly loaded but when you have ten possibly intoxicated people aboard we all no the weight will all likely be up high and a few waves would probably be enough to topple it over. I do agree it would take a lot to roll the boat but I also have to wonder if the keel was all the way down what kind of boat was it etc. because a few simple mistakes as we have seen time and time again can ruin what was intended to be a nice cruise. I wish them luck but cannot help but agree with that natural selection has a lot to do with it.

When alcohol is involved, all bets are off. It is that simple. :)

chuck53 05-13-2011 11:44 AM

We had another incident further up river last weekend. A bunch of drunk guys had left a party and proceeded to run their powerboat into a flashing channel marker. Lots of injuries, none life threatening.
If you want to drink, fine. Just make sure at least the one in charge is sober.

Silvio 05-13-2011 01:50 PM

"Ten people, who appeared to be in their 20s"
Dumb kids.
Sad that one and possibly two won't get to learn from their stupidity.

dscsr23455 05-13-2011 03:49 PM

I guess they were NOT rocket scientists.

Silvio 05-13-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dscsr23455 (Post 730108)
I guess they were NOT rocket scientists.

Probably not.
Kids do stupid sh*t all the time. It is a real shame that this time it resulted in a couple of them dying. My thoughts go out to their families. I feel very fortunate that my own children have so far survived their own stupid learning moments.

The reports say they were all in their twenties, legally adults but really no more than kids still.

nolatom 05-13-2011 04:22 PM

I wrote the Coast Guard about how LxW div by 15 is a formula for overload, their response was tepid--said it was only on 'alternate' formula for those few boats with no capacity plate, meant for box-type hulls in calm conditions, and operator is ultimately responsible for not overloading, etc etc. All true, but pretty passive attitude.

So I think that stupid formula will be around a while. Outdone in stupidity only by Darwin candidates like these* who i supposed have never heard of the formula and couldn't do long division anyway..


*but when they take children down with them it's cruel *and* stupid


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