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Old 05-16-2011
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Yeah... it's a shame the 400C was discontinued but I did recommend it because it's a great unit. It's now been replaced by the 450 which is more expensive. I recall why I have such great street maps - I bought the 400C with the charts, and then I got the add in chip with the street maps - that way I have both in one unit. I should have mentioned the NiMH approach too - I was just trying to say NOT to use alkalines since you'd only get a few hours of use. There is also a 12v adapter for it, and lots of mounting options. I actually use my 400C as an anchor alarm with a mounting bracket right by my head in my v-berth. Turning tracks on will, over time, give you a spin-art like radius. If you leave that radius, you know you're dragging.
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I go with all the posts above which make it obvious how good a choice it is. I also have Garmin 76 as a handheld and as backups and use them for little other than getting a fix and converting it to a paper chart.

Unfortunately I was reading through the New Zealand Cat 1 requirements and the technoclogy has now caught up with common sense. They now require at least one mounted GPS chart plotter and handhelds only permitted as backup. So now I will have to invest in a piece of equipment that I have no use for just to satisfy the bureaucracy.

I guess that's the cost of progress.
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I go with all the posts above which make it obvious how good a choice it is. I also have Garmin 76 as a handheld and as backups and use them for little other than getting a fix and converting it to a paper chart.

Unfortunately I was reading through the New Zealand Cat 1 requirements and the technoclogy has now caught up with common sense. They now require at least one mounted GPS chart plotter and handhelds only permitted as backup. So now I will have to invest in a piece of equipment that I have no use for just to satisfy the bureaucracy.

I guess that's the cost of progress.
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If you mounted the GPS76 wouldn't that suffice ? You could use the Garmin kit and hardwire the cig socket cable into your electrical panel. That would surely pass muster.
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I go with all the posts above which make it obvious how good a choice it is. I also have Garmin 76 as a handheld and as backups and use them for little other than getting a fix and converting it to a paper chart.

Unfortunately I was reading through the New Zealand Cat 1 requirements and the technoclogy has now caught up with common sense. They now require at least one mounted GPS chart plotter and handhelds only permitted as backup. So now I will have to invest in a piece of equipment that I have no use for just to satisfy the bureaucracy.

I guess that's the cost of progress.
Sounds like a rather silly requirement. If you ask me, chartplotters give folks a false sense of security. Also, a handheld GPS is a much more robust device; it's electrically isolated from the rest of the boat, it's light and physically isolated (a.k.a., it can move rather than have to resist the full impact of something hitting it), and it forces one to look at the actual paper charts (true even with plotter-type handheld, since the screens are so small).
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I use a Garmin Etrex for backup. Its been dropped overboard, thankfully in the harbour and still working. Very reliable and simple to use. Its in the grab bag when I,m not using it.
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Sounds like a rather silly requirement. If you ask me, chartplotters give folks a false sense of security. Also, a handheld GPS is a much more robust device; it's electrically isolated from the rest of the boat, it's light and physically isolated (a.k.a., it can move rather than have to resist the full impact of something hitting it), and it forces one to look at the actual paper charts (true even with plotter-type handheld, since the screens are so small).
Even with a full sized plotter I'd still want a hand held for those just in case moments. We do the same as a lot of you and use the handheld for lat/long then plot on chart. It will be interesting to see if this changes at all with a full size plotter.

We do have chart plotter now installed but to be honest the screen is so absurdly small that we still on really use it for position.
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Although I frequently refer to my Oregon 400c "handheld," I never hold it in my hand. I got the $10 bicycle handlebar mount from Garmin and put it on my pedestal guard. So I only handle it at the beginning and end of each daysail. This is especially important with the Oregon, since it does not float and I have a walk-through transom. Not a good combination, so mounting it is essential.

FYI, the handlebar mount rotates nicely around the pedestal guard, so I can direct the device to minimize sun glare.
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Ditto the garmin oregon 400c. picked one up last year on sale at west marine. covers my needs quite well. still use it as a backup to charts. in the event of fog, it should prove very useful.
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The Oregon 450 is the new version of the 400, perhaps with an upgraded compass and you can find it online (Amazon) for $325. You still have to buy the marine chart chip. I bought a 450 6 months ago and paid about $110 for the US chart chip. If you want street maps or topo maps, You'll have to buy more chips.

It's not cheap, but it works very well and has a noticeably higher resolution than the Garmin handhelds you can find at West Marine (for a lot less!)
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The Oregon 450 is the new version of the 400, perhaps with an upgraded compass...
Yes, the compass is upgraded. You no longer have to hold the unit level to use the compass feature. IIRC, I think it may also have an integrated camera, with lat/lon stamping on the pictures.
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