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this is the boat i have, centerboard water ballast. when the ballast is dry its about 1100 lbs then 2400 wet. great boat for my area small trailerable boat-picsantana23ca.jpg
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I had given serious consideration to the Stuart Mariner, but had overlooked the Precision. A Precision 165 would be cheaper and much lighter than the Monty 17. To be honest, I prefer the Monty, but it exceeds the towing capacity of our vehicles by about 500 pounds. All the suggestions given have some merit, and thanks for the response. I will decide soon just to get something on the water this summer.
If the Monty 17 is too heavy, how about a Monty 15!

The West Wight Potter 15 and 19 are nice, too.

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You are shopping brand new boats? If not, I love my Venture 17 by MacGregor. 800 lbs. 2 horse Honda moves it easily. The nicest one ever will cost you less than $3000. Trailers have full-size car tires. Cabin is great for stashing junk or sleeping if needed. One advantage of a cabin that hasn't been brought up -- bathroom usage. Especially on a lake where there isn't a side to whiz off of where you aren't giving some lakefront property a show. Good luck and hope you enjoy whatever you choose.

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You're on target for a trailable boat from a cost standpoint. Being able to work on your boat in your yard and not having marina costs are big factors. Also by trailing you can take your boat to a lot more places.
A long tme back ('84) the Small Boat Journal did an evaluation of small lightweight camp cruisers. This included the Bay Hen (900#), Dovekie (600#), Drascome Coaster (1,060#), Montgomery 17 (1,550#), Old World 18 (1,200#),Slipper 17 (1,250#) Gloucester 18 (1,600#) and a J-22 (arguably trailable 1,750#). I can send you a copy if you want it.

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Just wanted to thank everyone for your responses. The suggestions have been the catalyst these past two days for perhaps a more realistic appraisal of our sailing goals. My wife thinks a cabin, however small, is important. One assumption I had was the idea of having enough cockpit room for four adults, but that does not seem as important now. Giving up on that idea, made the Montgomery 15 very attractive, and thanks to the one who suggested it.
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One last suggestion if you are not planning on buying immediately is the Sage 17. It is similar to the Montygomery 15 and 17. They are about 300 lbs lighter than the Monty 17. They are brand new and are currently have just started on Hull #1. There website is sagemarine.com

If you do wind up with the Monty let me know if you are ever sailing on Tablerock. I was debating getting one for my next boat but have never seen one.

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The Sage 17 prototype looks very good, and thanks for the tip. No surprise it looks like the Montgomery 17 since Jerry is involved in the project. Golden, Colorado is much closer to Arkansas than Dana Point, California, and it's all downhill from Colorado to Arkansas - almost. I suppose I could wait awhile on a purchase. Mark, I will keep you in mind should I sail on Table Rock with a Monty or Sage.
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It must have been Sage 17 hull #0 I climbed around on at the Annapolis show this year. It was still in grey gelcoat and wasn't finished inside (yet). Very nice people and looked like a nice boat. Glad someone is building new boats. I really liked the look of the lapstrake-esque hull. Reminded me of my favorite boat. (mine!).

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Trailerables come in all sizes. My Lancer 25 is a trailerable. We do it every time we sail. Sure, at 4000 lbs wet or dry, it seems a daunting task to step and rig, but my wife and I (both LATE 40's {but she hasn't changed a bit since high school}) do it together on a regular basis with no problems.

If I can be so bold, pick up a copy of The Complete Trailer Sailor by Brian Gilbert, or something like it. Gilbert gives a lot of great information on trailering, sailing and boating in general. In the back of the book, he has specifications, photos, diagrams and critiques on 50 or so small to large trailerables. It can help you with what you like to look at and what you think is a must have or a want to have. The boats are from around 12' to 28'. I bout my copy from Amazon for $9. Well worth it!

If you were to ask me, I'd say look in the 22' range. Small enough to be fun. Big enough to bring a sweet heart and a bottle of Merlot. When the Merlot is replaced by fruit juice and stray Cherios, it's still a fun and usable pocket cruiser. IMHO.

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It must have been Sage 17 hull #0 I climbed around on at the Annapolis show this year. It was still in grey gelcoat and wasn't finished inside (yet). Very nice people and looked like a nice boat. Glad someone is building new boats. I really liked the look of the lapstrake-esque hull. Reminded me of my favorite boat. (mine!).
If only they would make a 20' version...

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