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Missing jib/genoa sail PLEASE HELP

I am extremely new to sailing. I bought a boat yesterday for very cheap. It's in good shape but after a little research, I noticed the I am missing the front sail. Does anyone know how to figure out which sail I need or maybe someone has one lying around. The only info have have on the boat is the tag that reads-
Anchor Sailboat
Div. Molded fiber glass body Co.
Union City, Pennsylvania
Class - Pintail
Serial no - 502-97

The LOA is 14' 3" and the main sail is
Leech- 203" or 16.91'
Foot- 101" or 8.41'
these measurements are overall measurements not grommet to grommet
Any information would ve greatly appreciated.

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This is what I found on the Pintail.

PINTAIL Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com
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Thanks for the speedy response. I found this page as well, the problem I have having is the dimensions listed for the main sail do not match my main sail. How do I know if I need a genoa or jib? Do the measurements have to be exact or will it work as long as it's close?
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Or Chris your mainsail may not be the correct one .. just a thought.
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If you can find a class sail used great. If not, measure the length of the forestay. And sail with luff somewhat shorter than that will work. I am assuming this is a hanked on sail.
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... the problem I have having is the dimensions listed for the main sail do not match my main sail.
How far off are they? Could it be that the main is just old and stretched-out?

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How do I know if I need a genoa or jib?
One could argue you need both

A "jib" is a foresail that's 100% or smaller, and a genoa is a foresail that's greater than 100%. "100% of what?," you might ask. Well, 100% of the distance from the tack of the sail to the mast of the boat. If the foot reaches just to the mast: It's a 100%, aka: "Working jib", aka: a #3. Your largest foresail, most commonly 150-155%, would be a #1 genoa. If you have a #2 genny, it'll usually be in the range of 125-135%.

Sometimes people have bigger #1s, in the vicinity of 160%, up to even 175%. (Those are called "deck sweepers.")

A #4 jib will usually be in the vicinity of 75-80%. Lastly comes the storm jib, usually at about 25%.

Most boats make do with a #1 and #3.

We ended-up with four #1s. I'm going to see if one of them can be cut down to a #2, or possibly even a racing #3.

Jim
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Thanks for all the input everyone.

I considered that my sail may not be Original. The dimensions on the webpage I found for the main sail is

Leech - 18 ( mine is 16.91 )
Foot - 8.92 ( mine is 8.41 )

I'm not sure that the size called out would even fit on my boat.

Also, I just measured my boat and 100% jib foot is roughly 4 1/2'. The website was calling out a 6' foot on the jib. Is a pintail a model for several manufactures or should all pintails be the same? Sail searching is a pain, but I like the challenge. Suppose I had one custom made, how would I figure out how high up the mast for the leech?
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Thanks for all the input everyone.

I considered that my sail may not be Original. The dimensions on the webpage I found for the main sail is

Leech - 18 ( mine is 16.91 )
Foot - 8.92 ( mine is 8.41 )

I'm not sure that the size called out would even fit on my boat.
I guess you'll have to calculate the luff. Then measure the distance from the gooseneck to the sheave at the top of the mast. It should be a bit more than the mainsail's luff. Measure from the gooseneck to the end of the boom. Again: Should be somewhat longer than the foot of the mainsail.

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Also, I just measured my boat and 100% jib foot is roughly 4 1/2'. The website was calling out a 6' foot on the jib.
Sounds like it came with a 133% genoa.

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Jib measurents for Pintail Class

I'm not sure where you saw the sail dimensions that you were speaking of.
Here's something that I had lying around for this particular boat.
No matter what the diagrams say, make sure to take an accurate measurement of you forestay, (jib hoist). According to what I see here, it shouldn't be any LESS that 13' 6". These measurents SHOULD place the jib clew in it's proper position, (allowing it to trimmed using the standard hardware.) But it's ALWAYS best to check this also. Best of luck.

Hope this helps.

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