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Old 06-22-2011
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just wanted to share my idea

so i'm 15 years only and ive always thought about living on a sailboat and not my goal is that when i'm 18 to move out and onto a sailboat by myself or with girlfriend if have one at the time. so just wonder around how much would it cost to do this? cheaper than living on shore?compared to a ( appartment/ house). whats it like to live on a sailboat? i sail my little sailboat every chance i get but just wondering.
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Seems to me your allready on that path , and ya it's going to cost you all you make just like liveing on land and going to the rat race everyday it also takes all you can make ..

Chin up life is short and you are doing what you like ,IMHO you can't loose .

Good luck in your endevors !
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At 18, you don't want to be living with a girlfriend bud. Have her over, sure, but don't let her mover in. You've got three years to learn to sail, look at boats, read, talk to naval architects, etc... When you're 18, you'll have a much better idea of want will work for you. While you're thinking about all that, figure out a career that can help you pay for your dreams and give you time to pursue them!
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If you are now 15, focus on school and when you are 18, go to college and get a good education. Developing your mind is more important at your age than GF or sailing. The ocean will be there when you are 64.

When you stay in school, it does not mean you can't go sailing. Oh yeah, stay home to save money. You have a whole life time ahead of you to live alone.

Be smart and be patient. Education makes learning everything easier down the road including sailing. Develop your critical thinking skills may save your life in the ocean.

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rockDAWG has good advice, even if as a 15y/o it seems kinda dull. Besides, a fine young filly isn't going to want to live on a stinky little old sailboat with you (and I don't think you'd want her there either! You really don't want women to lose all their mystery quite that young )
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The trick to living well and enjoying life is to find what you're good at. I'm fortunate that I'm paid well to do it. This way, I can pay someone good at building boats to build one for me.

There are many ways to build a sailboat. Of the many ways to do it, finishing school has to be among the very best. The perks aside -- college girls; college sailing programs -- you don't have to commit too early. Nobody gets rich building sailboats. Keep a few options open. Finish school. Buy your boat, hopefully not built by the lowest bidder fumbling through his first attempt.
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Almost 1/2 the world is made up with women. You're too young to even be thinking about living with anybody other than your parents.

But as others have advised---- you need either a solid formal education that includes college or a training for a trade. If you fail to prepare yourself with a trade or education, you most likely will end up at the bottom of the social heap with no boat, no money and a cardboard room on the street. Think about it.

Boats, water and women will always be there.
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Trying to answer your questions

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so i'm 15 years only and ive always thought about living on a sailboat and not my goal is that when i'm 18 to move out and onto a sailboat by myself or with girlfriend if have one at the time. so just wonder around how much would it cost to do this? cheaper than living on shore?compared to a ( appartment/ house). whats it like to live on a sailboat? i sail my little sailboat every chance i get but just wondering.
Ok - small boat lover. The Olde Salts here are great at giving unsolicited advice, even if most of it is pretty good. I'll go in a different direction and give you the answers you asked for, rather than the ones I think you need.

First - how much does it cost? Well, that depends on how much you want to spend. If you are willing to camp on a 19' West Wight Potter, the cost can be very low. For example, the minimum slip fee off of Pier 37 in San Francisco is under $400 for housing in San Francisco at the waterfront is unheard of. With that you get showers, electricity, and toilet facilities, but you're walking to a shower, and your boat has no onboard head, just a hand-emptied porta-john. The galley is a one burner propane stove and a cooler chest. (So add approx $3.00/day for ice if you want cold drinks.) It's definitely living on the cheap and primitive. Such a boat cost me $15,000 used. (You can find one for less, but it was THE boat, and I wanted it) If you get a larger boat, you can get one with more systems, but then the maintenance costs go up month to month and season to season.

For a used live aboard, I estimate you will need between $20,000 - $35,000 to get a boat in decent working condition and get it transported to where you need it. Annual maintenance, assuming you are daysailing in comfortable weather and not cruising come hell or high water, will probably run $2000 - $5000 a year, depending on how hard you work to keep up with the failing systems. (Water hates boats.) Depending on where you are, your slip fees can run anywhere from $75 - $1200 a month.

So cost wise, to sum up, once you've paid for the boat, it costs about what it costs to live in an efficiency apartment, if you stick with a small, simple boat.

Now - what's it like? Well, I've never lived aboard. I've just done a little cruising on vacations. For one thing, it's crowded. There's never enough room for everything. Your desktop computer needs to turn into a laptop. Your book collection needs to turn into a kindle. Your workshop needs to turn into a tool box. And there's never, ever, anywhere you can park your car for free, let alone your trailer.

It's hot, except when it's cold. Unless the boat's got onboard AC/heating, it's a constant job managing the temperature. It's damp. Even if the hull doesn't sweat or leak, it's going to be humid.

Oooh! Play guitar? Find yourself a cheap crappy one. Do NOT take a nice wooden musical instrument on a boat long term. The humidity and temperature changes are bad for them.

Don't get me wrong - I love being on my boat so much that I will drive 40 minutes to the marina and just sit in the cockpit, drink a little rum, and dream of tropical islands, even when I don't have time to sail. I sleep well aboard - the motion of the boat at dock or anchor rocks me to sleep. Girls seem to like to sail - that's for sure. But below deck, they like their comfort, so if you're living on a small boat, try to select for companions with a spirit of adventure.

So - if this is something you REALLY want to do, you've got a lot of research ahead of you, and a lot of hard work to earn the money to pay for it.

I've tried to answer your questions, given my experience. Let me know if you want my advice.
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I sleep well aboard - the motion of the boat at dock or anchor rocks me to sleep. Girls seem to like to sail - that's for sure.
Just wanted to point out. Spooning is great with the rocking motion of the boat. But the pumping during close encounter is always out sync with the boat rocking motion. May be others have better luck or I need more practices.
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Just wanted to point out. Spooning is great with the rocking motion of the boat. But the pumping during close encounter is always out sync with the boat rocking motion. May be others have better luck or I need more practices.
Initial stability is, after all, one reason to buy a larger rather than a smaller boat.
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