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stefrrr 07-11-2011 11:17 PM

Sailing clubs?
 
So... in my searches for sailing classes in my area, I came across a sailing club, Island Sailing Club with locations in Olympia, Kirkland, and Portland, OR. It looks attractive, because we're still renting after our move here last year (buyer's market my @ss).

Figuring out the cost of joining, monthly dues, the basic and coastal cruising courses for my SO and I, I'm looking at about $3500 for the first 12 months. This seems pretty reasonable for unlimited access to a fleet of 7 older but maintained boats, 4 of which were available on the perfect Sunday we visited. Plus 1 which would be available after completion of a third course, but I don't see us getting that far in one year.

Has anyone here been a member of a club like this?
Advantages?
Disadvantages?
Thoughts?

Silvio 07-12-2011 10:36 AM

Yup!
My wife and I took a basic keel boat lesson, ASA 101, and then joined the club at the school. We paid a small initiation fee, $400 or there abouts, and then $99 a month. Had unlimited use of the school boats 25ft or less and got a greatly reduced rate on the larger boats (never did rent a larger one).

The ease of the club and the ability to sail on short notice encouraged us to get out more often than I believe we would have otherwise. We managed to sail typically once a week for four hours or so at a time and learned a lot. The club organised an event each month, typically a scavenger hunt, race around the bouys, BBQ on a beach a short sail away, etc.
Good times, good value, and great way to get sailing!
We looked at clubs in the area we are moving to but decided it was the right time to buy our own boat. No regrets with either decision.

Best of luck to you and enjoy the sailing out there!

PS
You are right, it is not as much of a buyer's market as many news sources would suggest. I suspect prices are more accurately re-setting from an artificial inflation. Many folks are in a position like myself and sitting on multiple properties waiting for the craziness to settle down before even considering selling. No need to take a loss selling a perfectly rentable house when renting allows us to wait out the market, keep tax advantages, and still pay down the mortgage.
Good luck house hunting.

blt2ski 07-12-2011 12:50 PM

Not sure where you are located, but if close to Seattle, also look at windworks and Seattle sailing club. Both are located at SHilshoal, with in feet of ea other. WIndwarks had mostly dufours(ie dealer for) with a smattering of other brands. Seattle sailing is also the J-boat dealer, so they have a bunch of J's and other brands too. IIRC Windwarks follows the ASA system, Seattle sailing the J-boat class system. Both are probably more the same than different. IIRC looking into the costs a few years back, both are similar in cost.

Not sure, Island sailing may also be Neptune sailing club in Kirkland which I knew back in teh 70's when they had the property that is now David E Brink park, sold San Juans and Lasers. Used to rent hull #s 600-800 and race them back in the day.

Marty

sailordave 07-13-2011 09:23 AM

Well I crew and race on some boats as well as belonging to a private club or 20 members. We usually have 3 boats available for use; all 30-32' cruising type boats.

We recently sold one and are in the process of searching for it's replacement. (Was time to upgrade)

We have a "buy in" that I believe is around $4500 and annual dues of $2000/year. You also need to put in 16 hours of maintenance work on the boats. Seasonal prep, cleaning, routine maintenance etc...
For this you can use the boats whenever they are available by going online and reserving the boat. We do have limitations on the number of days you can have a boat reserved (no blocking out every weekend for the season!) but there is almost always a boat available. And if you're off during the week like I was for many years it's GREAT! Only trouble is no singlehanding allowed. But to get access to a decent cruising boat at minimal cost is pretty nice.
That said I'm looking at getting my own boat b/c I want more control over how it's set up, want to singlehand, and don't want to share!
Oh, and when you sell to get out you get whatever the share price is then.

But it's still a good deal.

svHyLyte 07-13-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefrrr (Post 749107)
So... in my searches for sailing classes in my area, I came across a sailing club, Island Sailing Club with locations in Olympia, Kirkland, and Portland, OR. It looks attractive, because we're still renting after our move here last year (buyer's market my @ss).

Figuring out the cost of joining, monthly dues, the basic and coastal cruising courses for my SO and I, I'm looking at about $3500 for the first 12 months. This seems pretty reasonable for unlimited access to a fleet of 7 older but maintained boats, 4 of which were available on the perfect Sunday we visited. Plus 1 which would be available after completion of a third course, but I don't see us getting that far in one year.

Has anyone here been a member of a club like this?
Advantages?
Disadvantages?
Thoughts?

The first question I would ask is how many other people also think they have unlimited access to the boats? I do not know what percentage of your figures are for training verses simply using the boats ex post facto but I'd want to ensure that I could use a boat when I wanted to do so, within reason. No?

rorider 07-13-2011 02:22 PM

Island Sailing Club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stefrrr (Post 749107)
So... in my searches for sailing classes in my area, I came across a sailing club, Island Sailing Club with locations in Olympia, Kirkland, and Portland, OR. It looks attractive, because we're still renting after our move here last year (buyer's market my @ss).

Figuring out the cost of joining, monthly dues, the basic and coastal cruising courses for my SO and I, I'm looking at about $3500 for the first 12 months. This seems pretty reasonable for unlimited access to a fleet of 7 older but maintained boats, 4 of which were available on the perfect Sunday we visited. Plus 1 which would be available after completion of a third course, but I don't see us getting that far in one year.

Has anyone here been a member of a club like this?
Advantages?
Disadvantages?
Thoughts?

I'm familiar with ISC, they are a good outfit with locations in Portland, OR, Olympia, WA, and Kirkland, WA.
The boats they have available are well kept, and while there isn't a huge selection, it is more than adequate for beginning sailors.
Getting a boat is usually no problem (if you don't count July 4th weekend), make your reservation and go. Even at the last minute there are usually boats available for use, although it might be a Santana 20 rather than the 24.
I firmly believe that you will get your money's worth from joining IF you make the commitment to sail as often as you can, a minimum of once/week, and take the time to put into practice what they taught you in class. Their classes are well taught and worth the money, IMO, so start with ASA 101 and then sail, a lot.

If you want further info just drop me a note, I'm in the area and my wife and I have taken their ASA 101 class. My boat is nearby ISC and I see they have boats you could use on short notice almost all the time.


I'm glad to help.

stefrrr 07-14-2011 01:12 PM

Thanks for the input everyone!

We're in Olympia. This location has 25 members right now, and 8 total boats. It appears from our visit and their answers to my questions that getting a boat will not be a problem. I think we're going to go for it. I'm just going to double-check that we'll be able to extend our 12 month commitment to the end of next summer instead of another 12 months at the end.

arknoah 07-14-2011 01:30 PM

Your situation does sound ideal. Since you are looking at taking the ASA 101 and 103 courses for two people plus yearly dues equaling $3,500, my sense is it's worth it. And, if you're something of a tightwad like me, you'll do as Rick (Rorider) has said and sail as much as you can. Good luck.


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