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ISLANDCHIEF60 08-04-2003 01:33 PM

Ferro- Cement
 
As an avid "ROCK" boat owner I will try to give an objective opion about owning a Ferro-Cement boat. I purchased mine a year ago but not with out alot of investigation.The Islandchief is a 60ft. Cutter Rigg with a displacment of 58,000lbs. He`s full keeled with a swing center board. Drafting 4ft board up and 9ft board down. Perfect for cruising the Islands. First off, I want to say YES!! There are alot of JUNK boats out there. However there are alot of JUNK boats in other constructions. When buying a boat always listen to your gut. The first time you step foot on the deck you`ll know. At least that`s the way it was for myself and Wanda (my better half). When considering a Ferro-Cement boat, get all of the details on how the construction was performed.Who built it and is the builder still available for coment. There is also a great web site called "World of Ferro-Cement Boats". Go through this web site before getting the " I GOTS TO HAVES" There are alot of myths about Ferro boats. The more you educate yourself the better off you will be. Oh, and Stay away from people that offer opions with no facts to back it up. I myself love my boat and would`nt trade it for any other boat. I have also seen some that would be better off as a reef. The Ferro-Cement boat as received a bad name for itself and rightly so. However when you find a good one they can`t be beat. Oh, I forgot to mention. I have a No.2 Hull. The mother ship is in St Thomas called "New Horizons". Both ships were designed by Stan Huntingford in Vancouver B.C. and both built to the same strict standards. So check with the current owner and see if there is another vessel out there. The original builder or owner would know for sure. If you have any other questions or want to coment drop me a line.
Sincerly, Chuck Fleer

BigZ 08-05-2003 07:50 PM

Ferro- Cement
 
Thanks Chuck,
I''ve been considering moving up from my fibreglass 26 footer and have thought about the "rock" boats.
I am aware of how to check for a sound hull on wood, fibreglass, and cored boats but am unsure as to how to do this on a rock boat. Do you have any suggestions or recommended surveyors?
Thanks
Z

ISLANDCHIEF60 08-07-2003 11:08 AM

Ferro- Cement
 
Hey "Z"
It`s really not much different than any other boat. You still have to check out the mechanics of the boat. The biggest thing is the hull. The cement itself is`nt as much of an issue as the armature (ie. rods & mesh). To start with the boat needes to be as fare as a glass boat. With mine, you can`t tell the difference until you rap on the side of it. If they have taken the time to fare it out then attention was paid to the rest of the boat. Go to the web-site that I mention earlier. It will give you a welth of knowlege. If the side of the boat looks like 50lbs. of chewed bubble gum, RUN THE OTHER WAY!! Find a surveyor who has knowlege on the subject. Also surf the web. It will let you know if the surveyor knows their stuff.
If you want I can give you a close run down on how the constuction should be based on my boat. Hope this helps.
Chuck

73mensailed 08-10-2003 08:02 AM

Ferro- Cement
 
We were in San Diego in June for a few days of sailing. Tied up at the marina we stayed at was a 50+ ft 2 masted cement sailboat.

We were impressed by her size and rigging that I knew after we checked in with the harbormaster on a slip, I would be walking down for a closer look. The owner and his wife were NZ''ers and had crossed the Pacific a few times in her. To be perfectly honest, I had no clue she wasn''t fiberglass until the owner told me. And he was quite proud of that boat.

I had a lot of questions. He had 3 foresail on hydrolic winches, easy mast access for radar and antennas.

If that was the boat we were looking to move up to, costs aside, I''d give serious consideration to puchasing.


ISLANDCHIEF60 08-11-2003 09:59 AM

Ferro- Cement
 
There`s nothing wrong with a well built Ferro-Cement boat. As you can tell I`m a strong advicate of "Rock" boats. I also beleive that fellow owners owe it to the breed to let others know how proud they are to have one. A bad name was given to them un-justly and it`s my mission to change all of that. I have nothing but great thing to say about my "Island Chief". It`s also as fare as any glass boat out there. When I first saw it I too thought it was glass until I rap the side of it and damn near broke my hand. The "Island Chief" and the "New Horizons" where design by the late Stan Huntingford. Stan design a good number of boats and it`s possible the one you saw was one of them. There are a great number of Ferro-Cement boats out there still in service. The ones that gave them a bad name are more than likely not even sailing any more, or never made it to the water. So, if any of you out there have any questions or a story "Good" or "Bad" I would love to hear from you.
Thanks
Chuck

VIEXILE 08-16-2003 10:06 AM

Ferro- Cement
 
New Horizons is ferro? Never would''ve guessed. She sits in the slip at Sapphire and charters almost daily, I believe. Pretty boat.

Heruka 08-16-2003 06:53 PM

Ferro- Cement
 
hmm, cement boats. here''s one I''m sure yo can have for cheap. ;o)
<img src="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/281695/cementboat.jpg">

ISLANDCHIEF60 08-21-2003 10:58 AM

Ferro- Cement
 
Wouldn`t Waste my time even thinking about that one.

ISLANDCHIEF60 09-22-2003 12:08 PM

Ferro- Cement
 
Anyone out their with any Ferro-Cement stories????? good or bad.

M-1 Garand 09-25-2003 09:01 AM

Ferro- Cement
 
I don''t have any stories about Ferro-Cement, but as a person who currently owns a 25''er and is looking to end up with something around 50'', I would like to know about the cost of one compared to other hulls.


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