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I have to challenge the premise that an inboard will provide more power than an outboard in a boat the size you are seeking. A ten horse outboard will move it along just fine. There is little or no practical gain in going to an inboard with regard to power.

Also, if you limit your search to inboards, you severely limit the field of available boats.

While each propulsion system has its merits, consider the fact that you're considering an older boat with an older engine. If your outboard totally fails, the most it can cost you is the cost of another used engine. If your inboard fails, you'll need to get used to the rates that marinas charge if you're not a mechanic. Also consider that if your outboard has a minor failure, you can unclamp it and put it in your trunk and have your pick of mechanics in your area. Not so many choices available for an inboard.

Also, don't underestimate the complexity of the cooling system, and exhaust on a marine inboard. On an outboard, it's all in one neat little package.

I currently sail a 31 footer with a diesel, but I enjoyed my 26 footer with a 10 horse Evinrude for over a decade. Observe the proper care and feeding for an outboard and it'll take care of you.
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good luck with your search, just a few more to add to your list, the ODay 25 or 26, the Hunter 26 (with the water ballast), catalina or even the Chrysler 26. Most trailerable boats will come with a center board/swing. you may even want to consider some of the C&C 26 footers (10' beam). A quick yachtworld search for your region pulled up 22 hits for boats in the 25-26 ft range, the hard part will be finding one with at trailer.
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A note about the size of the boat and crossing the Gulf stream. I know people who have gone across in a Hunter 23 and a Venture Newport 23. Pick your time, don't be in a hurry.
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I was hot on the trail of a Ranger 26II. Not to be confused with the 26. It is a modified version of a Gary Mull design. It has a lifting keel for easy(er) trailerability. Also an open transom. Saw them twice, price $5000ish. Great deal. Now have Camper Nicholson 303. Not for its trailerability.
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CalebD, the Macgregor is a boat I really looked at at first but shied away from for main reasons water ballast and not being stable. Do some have centerboards as well? I want to sail lakes some but on the coast want to sail some bad weather to get more experience with all elements you will be exposed to while sailing.
Also wondering, about North Carolina in the winter months. How cold does it get? Can one still sail and be fairly comfortable? 40 degree temps not cold to me, but not sure about 40 degree on the water.
Kyhillbill,
MacGregor made 4 different 26' boat models: the 'D' 'M' 'S' and 'X'. I'm pretty sure that both the 'M' and 'X' are the hybrid motorboat sailboat models and can take a 50 HP engine - but they are not great sailboats or motorboats. The "S' has a centerboard and the 'D' is for dagger board I believe. I've only sailed on the 'S' model and it is a decent sailor in moderate winds and can actually be faster then my 1967 Tartan 27' (which also has a centerboard but is usually not used on a trailer at nearly 7000#s and the mast alone weighs nearly 300#s which would be a bitch to step without some kind of crane.).
The rigging on the Mac 26 S is quite light when compared to the rigging on my boat and I'd rather be on my boat in bad conditions then a Mac.
That is why the Mac 26' S and other trailerable boats will have lighter rigging, masts and hulls as it is easier to set up.
I also hear many happy owners of San Juan sailboats in the 21- 23 range that also trailer their boats.
Also worth considering (as mentioned previously):
Bristol 24'
Cape Dories under 27'
O'Day 23' and 25'
Tanzer 22' and 25'(?)
among others.
This website helps me visualize how each different model sailboat looks and gives all the technical specs: Sailboatdata.com is the worlds largest sailboat and sailing yacht database with more than 8000 sailboats, sailing yachts, and sailing dingies listed.

In the extremely small boats for cruising there are the Montgomery 15' - 19' and Pacific Seacraft made a small blue water cruiser around 20'. They're both usually pretty expensive though.

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I have to challenge the premise that an inboard will provide more power than an outboard in a boat the size you are seeking. A ten horse outboard will move it along just fine. There is little or no practical gain in going to an inboard with regard to power.

Also, if you limit your search to inboards, you severely limit the field of available boats.

While each propulsion system has its merits, consider the fact that you're considering an older boat with an older engine. If your outboard totally fails, the most it can cost you is the cost of another used engine. If your inboard fails, you'll need to get used to the rates that marinas charge if you're not a mechanic. Also consider that if your outboard has a minor failure, you can unclamp it and put it in your trunk and have your pick of mechanics in your area. Not so many choices available for an inboard.

Also, don't underestimate the complexity of the cooling system, and exhaust on a marine inboard. On an outboard, it's all in one neat little package.

I currently sail a 31 footer with a diesel, but I enjoyed my 26 footer with a 10 horse Evinrude for over a decade. Observe the proper care and feeding for an outboard and it'll take care of you.
I have a 10 HP Honda, and was able to pick up an identical engine as a spare. If I should encounter a problem mid season itís good to know I can swap them out and not miss any time dealing with the mechanics schedule
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kyhillbilly,

Welcome to Sailnet and congrats on being bitten by the sailing bug!

As I've read your plans, it seems to me your near- and long-term boat requirements are different. My suggestion would be to focus on a boat that is ideal for the lake sailing you plan to do initially, perhaps with the ability to tow it over to the coast now and then to expand your range and learning opportunities.

When and if the opportunity to head out to the Bahamas and beyond fully materializes, you could then look for something better suited to that sort of itinerary and venue. This will give you time to gain experience and better understand what your requirements are, as well as to evaluate the trade-offs of various designs.

I have a strong preference for diesels inboards, but for lake sailing, I definitely would not rule out outboard engines since that would eliminate most of your best candidates. When you graduate to a larger coastal/ocean sailor, yes, look for a diesel inboard.

One thing you need to confirm is the maximum draft that your lake can accommodate at the launch ramp and for sailing around. Some areas are very shallow, requiring a centerboard arrangement.

If you have good water depth, one boat I really like in your price range is the Beneteau 235. It can be a good family lake sailor, with weekend/cruising capability, as well as trailerability. These also have a nice degree of responsiveness and performance, which is especially helpful when learning. They come with either a wing or fin keel. Either is good enough. Anyway, that's a datapoint for comparison as you move forward. Good luck!
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So many boats, so many opinions, like Ford vs Chevy seems like. CalebD I am really liking the Tartan 27. Only plan on moving the boat twice a year, from the coast to Ky in the spring and fall. Safety in my main concern for my family. Was curious how you thought the boat would be in lake waters. Cave Run Lake is location with mostly 25-27 footers whith some 30 footers. I really want that inboard, and comfort a 27 will offer for a starter boat.
Also want something that I can sail to the Bahamas once I get more experience. Living in Ky and away from the mainstream of sailing its hard to get to actually look at boats in person. However looking for one will be a lot of fun itself. I own a 50 houseboat right now and love it the lake life. There is so much more to see and experience. Anyways, My goal is to sale the lake in summer and the coast in the winter down to Florida and eventually the Bahamas. That last part is crucial. Eventually if all goes well buy a bigger boat and sail the caribbean in about 10 years or so. Seems to be the dream for a lot of us wannabe sailors. Boats I really like so far include:
-Tartan 27
-Bristol 27
-Pearson Triton 28
-Irwin 28
-Grampian 26
Hunters, O'day, Catalina, all great boats as well.
Hunters, Catalina, and O'day seem to be way more of. Are they that much better, hence more demand more boats on water, or cheaper made and more boats on water. I am babbling a lot, sorry. No substitute for experience, i have none, lots of people on here have plenty. Thanks for your help and responses. Plan on being on here for a long time, better get use to me.
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Thanks for the info Pollard, like your last name, same as mine. You make a good point, I might be trying to do to much with this first boat. Might have to scale down my plans to lake and staying close to coast. Just really want something I can spend several days on and be semi-comfortable. Being able to stand, cook, head with holding tank, are my must haves, at least I think they are. But getting lots of ideas, learning more, lots more to go before i make the choice.
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Well, since we are practically kin, I'll show you one I especially like, trailer included:

Beneteau 235

Depending where you are in KY, maybe not too far away?
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