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"sck5, this was supposed to be a somewhat humorous thread! "

humor? me? what? oooohhhhhhhhhhh ........

headsail humor. it went right by me.
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Roll the 135 partially or roll it up entirely and unroll the Staysail. I think that qualifies as changing our the sail.
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Well, itís kinda hard to change headsails when youíve only got 1.

Iíve got no problem taking our 150 genny down to a 110 on a beat. We just move the blocks to maintain a good foot/leech/shape. Cripes, Iíll bring her in farther than that if Iím at the helm, I donít much dig dragging the toe rail. My helmsman for the race series, however, thinks itís just a hoot. If he canít get us heeled over far enough to make the silverware drawer fall out (Iíve really got to get around to fixiní that), even with the genny at 110, he figures heís not doing his jobÖnutcase.
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What is a roller furling head sail?

I cruise, daysail, race etc. it easy to wet ones finner, put it in the air, grab the sail bag of the appropriate sail one needs for the day, install on the dock, go out, hoist the sail and enjoy!

so how do these roller furler thingies work?!?!????

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We would change headsails if we had more than one! We have a 135 that came with the boat, and that was probably a decently large sail on her former cruising grounds in Connecticut. Even here on the Bay, if you only have one sail, it's a good one to have. However, sometimes I think having a 150-ish and a 120-ish would be ideal (sort of like what chef2sail described). Of course, that would mean not just one but two new headsails! Not going to happen anytime soon.

I'm actually leaning towards getting a 120 first, since that would be nice to have in the fall and spring months especially. Still...probably something further down the road...
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It takes time for my butt to get the helm seat to the right temp. I don't want to lose that just to change head sails. Whatsamattawithyou??
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We have two headsails and a two slotted Harken furler. In the summer months we use a 155 on the furler (reefs down to about 120 with no loss of sail shape or perforance) and in the spring with the "heavier cold air" and usually better winds we use the 135 ( reefs down to 110 with no loss of performance or shape)on the furler. It is easy to change sails.. but no necessary most of the time excpet for seaosn change or when we go offshore.
I have a similar approach on my own boat. I have a lightweight 135 I carry on the furler during summer on Chesapeake Bay. I have a heavy 110 for the rest of the year and offshore. We also carry a hank-on staysail on a removable inner forestay that is rigged and hanked on before going offshore. We have switched back to the 135 for windward work offshore when the forecast looks light for a few days. We also have an asymmetric spinnaker that can be flown off the sprit or a pole downwind.

It really doesn't take long to do a sail change on the furler -- maybe 20 minutes at the dock and a bit longer underway. The 135 <> drifter change in my earlier post was even easier -- maybe about 15 minutes.
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I race on a C&C 35MkIII CB. He has roller furling, but doesn't take the roller furling race credit, so we don't furl. We can change the sail in 10 minutes or less.

My objection to roller furling doesn't really have anything to do with racing. It's just that when you try to engineer something to do many things, it usually does all of them poorly, and none of them well. A partially furled sail looks awful, and sometimes sails awfully.

I'm aware that there are foam luffs and other gadgetry to get a better shape out of them, and that's great. Hopefully the technology will continue to advance to make partially furled sails work better.
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Most of us cruisers use the BRA method of sailing... hoist 'em up and keep 'em from flopping!
Exactly............ If I see 7 knots or more, I get much less concerned about perfect sail trim or selection. Just keep her on her feet with quiet sails.

This, of course, does not apply if there is any other sailboat heading in the same direction. Then I'm all over it..........
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Bubblehead....whats the name of the 35C&CMKIII you race on?

Dave,,,,ever think about a 155 on your HR for the doldrums of summer on the Bay?
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