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The boat is clearly a Hunter. Check out the arch traveler and the centre cockpit.

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I recognize those ghastly split front windows anywhere. My hunter has them as well though they look slightly better on that boat than on mine. I guess they thought so much of them they put them in nearly all of their early 2000's boats.

I think it's a Hunter 456.

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Yes, the pictures make it clear that it's much larger than 30', and it sure looks like a Hunter.

The Washington Post said it was a 30' boat, but then later in the article they also called it a "houseboat"! Guess the press rarely gets things right :-)

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From the comments section of the linked Post article:

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Almost every marina has a self propelled boat hoist that lifts huge vessels into the air with straps. I'm sure one of these machines could be driven onto the beach to pick up his boat and take it to dry dock. The idea that he is going to dig out enough sand to get his boat floating is a continuation of the stubborness that got him onto this mess in the first place.
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Yea I am going to drive my $xxx.xx machine on sand and pull out a boat. good luck and nice simple thought. To the person in the reply.

Now I am sure there are loads of broken telephone poles around, stack a line of poles and roll her out, Stonehendge was built, right..

That would be a lot of digging. ouch

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...later in the article they also called it a "houseboat"! Guess the press rarely gets things right :-)

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Was calling it a "houseboat" right or wrong?



Is that why it could not sail to weather in a half gale and six foot seas?

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Was calling it a "houseboat" right or wrong?


Wrong... Under the command of these people, it was obviously a powerboat, a trawler with a mast...

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Is that why it could not sail to weather in a half gale and six foot seas?

What so many appear to be missing, is that whether or not the boat had that capability is moot, in this particular case...

They were NOT "caught out" in the conditions that eventually drove them ashore... They anchored off Ocean View late Friday in totally benign conditions, the weather history for Little Creek that day shows light breezes primarily out of the E-SE throughout, perfect for sailing back into Hampton Roads, and either seek shelter in Hampton, or Willoughby Bay...

For those not familiar with the area, perhaps a pic will help illustrate the mind-numbing stupidity of what they elected to do...

This is Willoughby Spit, looking off the the WNW... The safe haven of Hampton is in the upper right corner of the pic, and the refuge of Willoughby Bay is to the left (South) of the spit...

So, with storm to hurricane-force winds out of the E to NE to N having been forecast for days in advance, they chose to anchor in the open waters of the Chesapeake to the N of Ocean View, probably somewhere along the right margin of the photo in the vicinity of the small boat wake visible in the pic, close to what was obviously destined to become a lee shore, open to the Chesapeake Bay Entrance/Atlantic to the east, a minimum fetch of roughly 20 miles to Cape Charles to the NE, and a fetch of the entire southern half of the Bay from NE-N...

Try as I might, (polite) words fail me in an effort to characterize the depths of such stupidity...

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Great post putting the pic in! Nice job.
I agree, I don't think the boat had anything to do with this mess. As I'm sure there are numerous stories of experienced skippers doing well in this storm in much "less seaworthy" vessesl. There's no such thing as a ship designed to overcome ignorance in any light nor at any price and I'm no Hunter "fanboi", ftr. Thanks to JonEisberg, it's rather clear what "went wrong" here. It started at the dock.
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Waste of a perfectly good boat IMO.

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Don't forget that if the article is accurate, they left from Portsmouth. I don't know those waters, but a quick look on Google maps shows that Portsmouth is even better protected than Willoughby Spit. It just boggles the mind why they would have left Portsmouth with the hurricane coming.


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