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Compromise...I have a " pretty" white horseshoe w/reflective tape...attached to it is a coil of Bright Yellow floating line, and at night I attach strobes. I also have a Lifesling..and CG approved..type IV cushions.

If someone goes over, toss 'em everything that floats..horseshoe, cushions, Cooler sans beverages..

That said, there's really no substitue for wearing a PFD...to keep the swimmer afloat.
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Thanks for the input everyone.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the white ring could blend with whitecaps.

We're on Puget Sound, in a C27, so as I understand the regs we are required to have a throwable Type IV handy.

I've seen the lifesling and I like the idea; was thinking about getting one to hang next to the ring. Since its bag is white, I think it would pass inspection. ;-)

Reflective tape is an exellent idea too, thanks! I think for now I'll stick with the idea of replacing the white ring with the big yellow horsecollar when sailing,and I'll get some good reflective tape on that collar as well.

Just wanted to add that I'm not considering the throwable type IV as a replacement for wearing a pfd. I'm treating it more as a marker to throw if someone goes in, along with whatever else is handy, as someone mentioned.

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Not intending to preach to the choir. Just to clarify the Lifesling, it is really intended to recover someone from the water after you go back for them. It remains attached to the boat. If someone falls off while you are moving, it is unlikely they will be able to hold on, even if you get it to them before the line stops.

To really get a sense of a MOB, everyone should try a recovery of a lifejacket, which is about all you might see of a victim anyway. Even just the smallest 1 or 2 foot seas and you will lose track of it in seconds if you don't watch it continuously. That is why whomever sees the victim go in the water, should throw, announce and keeping pointing. Someone else has to get the boat back to them. If you're worried about trying this because you may lose a life jacket, stop and think about that for a second.

We bought a man overboard module (MOM) just this year, particularly since offshore waves could make it impossible to follow the victim, even if you tried. We also often sail with just two of us, so you would have to take your eye off to stop the boat. The MOM sits on the pushpit in a box with a grenade like pin on top. Just pull the pin and an automatically inflatable horsecollar, 6 foot pole and sea anchor drop out of the bottom. Hope to never need it.
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If you're worried about trying this because you may lose a life jacket, stop and think about that for a second.
If you've been boating long enough, you might have an old PFD on which the writing has faded. Use that. Once you can't read the writing it is no longer CG approved anyway and doesn't count in the number of required PFDs on your boat so no real loss.
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If you've been boating long enough, you might have an old PFD on which the writing has faded. Use that. Once you can't read the writing it is no longer CG approved anyway and doesn't count in the number of required PFDs on your boat so no real loss.
Good idea, but think what one's passengers might think if one isn't confident that you can get a brand spanking new lifejacket back aboard........ that could as easily have them in it.

Or course, I'm just making a point and, if one isn't confident, you should practice. In that event, I wish I could think of something more biodegradable. On the other hand, one should practice like you have no choice but to get it back. That's a bit more realistic anyway....
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On the other hand, one should practice like you have no choice but to get it back. That's a bit more realistic anyway....
Depends on who went overboard.
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Depends on who went overboard.
I have been know to give a safety briefing on MOB and indicating that the step after declaring a MOB was to immediately take a vote by show of hands on whether we go get them. Keeps the tourists playing nice together while aboard......
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White Type IV PFD... Safe?
Only in the Red Sea.

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We have a yellow horseshoe-type tied to strobe with a short floating line. (Short so it doesn't get into the prop.)

We also have a yellow lifesling that is tied to the boat with 50' of floating line. It's in a soft white case.

I'm planning to add a MOB pole (mounted on a backstay) in the future.

Credit to BillyRuffin for showing me this setup.

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I'm still a fan of those basic, square Type IV throwable cushions. I keep two on board, because they also make great cockpit cushions, lol. However, I keep them attached, both, to 100' of yellow polypropelene so it can be slung quite far and relatively accurately. When there's two, if the first one misses, you can triangulate with the 2nd. Also, as important, in my opinion, is my MOB pole. That's a lot easier to spot when there's any wave action whatsoever because it's so much taller than a person in the water.
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If you're planning to do any sailing in white water situations and are serious about MOB safety, chuck that thing in the bin and get one of these:

Danbuoy, Man Over Board, Rescue
I like the looks of this product. I spent a lot of years sailing on boats with MOB Poles mounted to the backstay and the Dan Buoy looks like it would do a better job and be a lot easier to store on board.

We have a Lifesling attached to the pushpit, but I agree that one of the big issues is finding the MOB when shorthanded after they have gone over.

FWIW, I would avoid red and orange as a color if you want to find it once it is in the water. Stick with that slightly greenish yellow. That is the color that to which our eyes have the greatest sensitivity. I can make a huge different, particularly in low light conditions.

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