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Ok What if I see 3 guys in a boat going from boat ( maybe yours) to boat with a crowbar popen hatches and putting stuff in there boat going to another sailboat ??
Lots of responses but not sure if you getting an answer! Sadly, I don't have an answer either...

Nobody likes to hear it but the authorities are there to do the paper work and clean up the mess, not to protect you. People argue this all the time but there are too few authorities, too much area, and too many criminals for it to be any different. So, your best bet is to take the appropriate precautions to avoid this situation. For example; do not anchor alone or in a known problem area, don't leave desirable targets in plain sight and/or unlocked, and so on. Even with all that done, someday it will still happen. Yes, obviously, turn the lights on, make noise, get on the radio/cell phone, and then the rest is up to you. Is you're kayak worth your life? Is your neighbors boat worth your life? In most cases, no. So, hiding is an option. However; in my opinion and depending on the situation, this is a very poor response. Often times making noise and shining a light on the problem will make the problem go away (petty thieves) - it could also get you shot. I suspect a hundred individuals would come up with a hundred different responses to the scenario - probably rightly so. A thief may well react differently to a small, older woman standing on deck pointing a light at them (viewed as harmless) than they would if it were a young, gorgeous babe in a bikini (rape target) or a large, ugly male holding a shotgun.

I guess that's all just the long way of saying that the response is up to you and your read of the scenario. I'll probably do all the above, start waving a weapon (fishing pole, spear gun, cooking pan, firearm, wasp spray, etc…) and hope I never run into the six guys that are strung out on dope and interested in killing for sport. When that happens, I'll just hope it is quick.

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EDIT: Ha! I just re-read the OP's question - my response has little to do with it. Sorry....
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"What do I do if I wake up in the middle of the night to my kayak being stolen?"
1. Get a bigger gun.

Or if you're a democrat, go back to sleep and file your insurance claim in the morning.

Seriously? You see a crime, you call 911, doesn't matter if it is on the land or water. The USCG has been asking folks to call 911, who are supposed to know how to reach the USCG and the marine patrols. USCG is NOT going to be the first responder in many places.
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HS,

I believe if I remember correctly the OP does not have a cell phone. That was the reason for using the VHF. Why couldn't you hail the Harbor Patrol on channel 16 and inform them of what you see. Seems logical to me as they are always listening to whats going on on the water. If you hailed them they would answer and most likely respond. They like to go fast in those boats the have.
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This weekend I'm going to be spending a night on a mooring for the first time and it got me thinking. What do I do if I wake up in the middle of the night to my kayak being stolen? Do I just hail the coast guard? Is a pan-pan in order? Ideally I'd like other boats to be on the lookout for the thief escaping with my kayak. Your insight is greatly appreciated... hopefully I never have to use it.
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To recap:

1. Secure your kayak before you bed down -- preferably on deck.
2. If you are awakened by someone attempting to take said kayak, call 911 before you do anything else.
3. With phone in hand (and while still talking to the 911 operator), turn on all available lights -- inside, spreader lights, etc.
4. Make noise.
5. If they are still there and are intent on taking it, let them have the kayak.
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5. If they are still there and are intent on taking it, let them have the kayak.
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6. Wait til they are a safe distance away and then press the remote self destruct button.

hee-hee-heee....

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Or if you're a democrat, go back to sleep and file your insurance claim in the morning.
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Are Democrats and Insurance mutually exclusive?

I think that hailing all nearby boats on the VHF is probably the prudent thing to do. That would be considerate in that others would prepare accordingly.
I would also have a very bright spotlight handy and use that to illuminate said thieves. They scatter like bugs in light.
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No, but the Democratic party tends to be violently anti-gun and very much in favor of "let's natter this to death" rather than taking direct action on any front.

Very much like Billary Clinton's national health plan--which was intended to buy votes and then collapse blamelessly in Congress. Or with blame on the Republican Congressional majority.

And now again like ObamaCare, which I expect will collapse in the Supreme Court challenges, because Obama intentionally (he's not that dumb) set up based on an illegal "forced purchase" instead of a fairly simple and obvious alternative that could not have been challenged by the courts. Yes, both times, great way to attract voters, and so obviously flawed from the start that you have to ask, why they did it knowing it couldn't work.

Not that the Republicans are always or so much better. Party politics is like watching yourself shave in the mirror. Doesn't matter which one you watch--the two are doing the same thing.
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Are Democrats and Insurance mutually exclusive?
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Democrats let people steal/rape/murder etc. and blame it on a bad childhood so they get them to go to rehab, then relapse to do it again when they come out. Job Security for the counselors...



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That was a rhetorical question. In the future I will post rhetorical questions in the OT Forum.
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