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Europe sailboat prices already much lower than in USA,
heh ? I was told by many that it is the opposite, and a very short look at prices in holland confirmed that.
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For old boats I guess the US is better. I was talking about boats with less than 15 years and particullarly for even newer boats.

Boats with 5 years are selling for about half the cost they cost now and almost half the cost the owners paid for them. Some of them are almost as new.

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The market is really bad. I recearched yachworld and found that in Europe sailboat prices already much lower than in USA, in average $15000 or more. The best example Grece and Croatia. It's better buy boat there, but it's not cheap to ship it here, unless you're experienced enough to buy and sail away. Any comments?
Thats because many of those boat are ex-charter boats and are beat to hell. Compare those boats in the South of Europe to the boats that leave the Moorings, Sunsail, or Barefoot fleets in the Caribbean.

The boats being sold in the USA are usually owners versions (less cabins, less heads) and are treated much better. Plus, in the northern usa, most of those boats are on the hard under covers for 1/2 - 2/3rds a year so they're practically 1/2 the age of boats left to bake in the sun in the South of Europe or Caribbean.

No free lunch in yachts, you get what you pay for...albeit at a depressed rate as of late.
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The proper response to the title of this thread is YES!
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I received a letter today stating that the broker just recently sold an HC 38 and that they had such a "tremendous" response to it they developed a "STRONG" interest in the Hans Christian name, but due to the limited amount of Hans Christians on the market, they are contacting all HC owners (I assume documented boats) who may be interested in marketing their boat at this time.

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We were at the Strictly Sail show at the navy pier in Chicago last weekend and got to talking with Bitchen Bob from Latitudes and Attitudes magazine.

He said he was able to buy his Formosas 56 (Lost Soul) back from the guy he sold it to a few yrs back for half what he paid.
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I think the boating market all around is bad. I just saw a Carver 3227 just like ours sell for $12000 at auction and it was in great shape. That boat a few yrs ago was double that.

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Re: Is the sailboat market really this bad?

Hello,
While I have never registered until now, I am a frequent visitor, and appreciate the knowledge that many of you have.
I found this post while doing a google search on the sailboat market, and thought it might be worthwhile bumping it to the top to see how things look a couple of years down the road.
My impression is that things have not improved and maybe have gotten worse. Plastic classics that were bringing $12-15,000 a few years ago are going for $5,000-$6,000 or less.
Many wooden boats cannot be given away.
Trailer sailors seem to be moving, but not all that briskly.
So, do any of you agree? And, will there be a recovery, or has the Golden Age of Everyman yachting passed us by?
(Sorry if this topic has already been recently revisited. I did a few searches, but nothing came up.)
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Re: Is the sailboat market really this bad?

The middle class is dying. The vast majority of people who have the money for a boat do not have the time to enjoy it. The few who have time and money generally want power. Sailors are a small fraction of an already small socioeconomic demographic. And that demographic will continue to shrink unless the political partisanship changes.
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