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My wife and I had a ball at the show this year. This was our first show, having skipped the previous two.

We took a "Take the Wheel" workshop which included demo sails of two boats of your choice from a decent list. Most were catamarans. We took out a Gemini 105Mc and a Lagoon 42. On Saturday after the Gemini sail, they had a wine & cheese social that allowed us to meet several of the other people and compare notes. What I found surprising was that we saw ourselves as rank novices but there were people there literally looking for their first boat to sail away to the islands with. People were surprised to hear we were on our third boat and I raced dinghies across Spa Creek. I didn't feel so bad leaving afterwards, feeling pretty seasoned by comparison.

I thought the workshop was a cheap way to get out on the boat, the Gemini 105Mc, we are considering as the replacement for our C-27 in the next year or two. An hour and change for $250 for both of us is a cheap charter. The following day, we went out on the Lagoon 42 (beautiful boat but a mobile condo that is twice the cost of my house) and the captain was in no hurry to get back. An hour demo sail wound up being three hours total.

We quite enjoyed tromping on different boats. It was an excellent opportunity to compare different models and eliminate boats that looked nice and but didn't appeal. My wife likes earlier Beneteaus because the current generation didn't move her. Hated the Jenneaus despite them being reasonably priced for their size. We loved the Lagoon and Gemini. Disliked the Tomcat 9.7 and Leopard catamarans. Only monohulls that appealed were the Catalina 355 and the Island Packet 35. I *loved* the Packet and it was the only monohull that really appealed to my wife. Another interesting and beautiful boat was a Gozzard 41, a Canadian-built cutter.

We got lucky and parked on Compromise Street just opposite the AYC Sailing Center. Worth the $20 a day and a short walk to the show. Crazy crowd on Saturday, Sunday was really nice.

As I knew it would, it has changed the way we look at our C-27. Always seen as an interim boat, the feel of the Gemini under sail and in amenities I think has accelerated our plans to upgrade. We expected to keep the C-27 5 years. I think we'll be lucky to still own her at the end of next season.

A good weekend overall. We really enjoyed the Fleet Reserve Club for lunch both days.

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.. We actually Ike the new 41 Gozzard.

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Hi Dave,

Can you explain this a bit better?

The Gozzard 41 was one of my preferred boats (30 years ago) and I still think that the Gozzard 41 has one of the most gorgeous interiors around, but they don't advertise any new 41 on their website (only a motor boat and I am guessing that is not what you are talking about). The photos that they have on their site regarding the Gozzard 41 are the same of the last 10 years, very nice indeed.

Do they really have a new 41 sailboat? That would be very interesting

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Hi Paulo,
Check out this link, I believe this is the Gozzard 41 you are looking for.

gozzard dot com/boat_information.php?aid=5
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The Gozzard 41 was designed about 10 years ago. It's hull was a redesign of earlier Gozzards and results in more performance.
Subsequently, the G44, and G36>G37 were given the new hulls.

The G41 at this year's show is new as far as the interior was tweaked a bit. There is talk of a Raised Deck Saloon model G42 which can be previewed on their website, with a commodious aft cabin with standup headroom and a saloon where, while seated, one can look out large windows.

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For those who are thinking about going next year for the first time, you should start thinking about your hotel reservations now and making them as soon as the hotel allows it. The longer you wait the farther away you'll have to stay.

The first two years we attended we stayed within walking distance. We made reservations in March and barely squeaked in.
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The Gozzard 41 was designed about 10 years ago. It's hull was a redesign of earlier Gozzards and results in more performance.
Subsequently, the G44, and G36>G37 were given the new hulls.

The G41 at this year's show is new as far as the interior was tweaked a bit. There is talk of a Raised Deck Saloon model G42 which can be previewed on their website, with a commodious aft cabin with standup headroom and a saloon where, while seated, one can look out large windows.

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It is a bit more old. Actually the Gozzard 41 was designed by Ted Gozzard back in 1986, so it is a 25 old design.

GOZZARD 41 sailboat on sailboatdata.com

I find the boat beautiful in a traditional way and I would hate to see it spoiled with a deck house.

The hull has far as I know it is basically the old hull, even if I liked to see that changed, a bit like Halberg Rassy has made with its boats.

Ronbo, do you know in what consists that hull modification you are talking about? I don't think that is something serious because the displacement of the boat and the ballast are exactly the same they had 25 years ago. Can you post a picture of it?

That's what I don't like on the Gozzard. With all new stronger, lighter materials and new building techniques, the boat still weights as munch as the 25 years old original one. Nothing seems to have changed for them, at least if I am not wrong about the "new" hull design.

But one thing that is been changing, very little but always for better is the interior. This Ted Gozzard interior is one of the most innovative of its time, so much that today is still a very modern one, an open space one with the Saloon on the bow (convertible in bed) and a huge galley.

I love it and it is a pity they don't give this boat the hull it deserves, one as modern as the interior.

Gozzard 41.mov - YouTube

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Went down to the show yesterday for a few hours and as always it was great to see the spectacle of all the boats, boat products, sailors, would-be sailors, and industry tradespeople in one place. That is probably my favorite thing about the show more than any individual boat or product there.

I definitely sensed the trade show being a bit “off” from years past. Fewer vendors there. A lot of the vendors seemed much more aggressive in trying to make sales at the show rather than just being satisfied to get their products out there and build potential client relationships. Nowhere near as many little freebies and giveaway contests to enter as previously either. Surely a lot of that is due to the economy but I also wonder if the trade show isn’t struggling a bit to maintain its relevancy in the face of the web?
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I usually have my strategy before I go to the show. Dickering to get better prices on things I really need or want. Its a great place to meet friends too. $7 for a delicious pit beef sandwhich at the fleet club with and ice cold draft for 5$ seems resonsable so as not to have to fight the crowds in and out of the show and eat the crappy food with the snarling servers in the restaurants surrounding the boat show.
The pit beef was $9 this year, but still very good.

Enjoyed a $9 (bucket (5) of 7oz Caronas with the Mrs. on the rooftop under the tent. There was plenty of room on Sunday and no smoking!!
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... I also wonder if the trade show isn’t struggling a bit to maintain its relevancy in the face of the web?
I hope that isn't the case. Looking on the internet can't top walking on a boat, seeing how the helm "feels," looking at products up close with the ability to ask questions face to face, finding that one thing you didn't know you needed, being around other boaters and it certainly doesn't have painkillers. One thing that influenced our decision was being able to sit comfortably in the cabin during the show while others walked through and didn't disturb us.
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it (*the web*) certainly doesn't have painkillers.
Your Internet is broken. *grin*

I had a great time on Friday and Sunday. Crowds were down and the manufacturers like Lewmar, Maxwell, Quantum, and Raymarine had reps with plenty of time to talk about the gory details of things I wanted to know about.

Bottom-siders seemed to be doing a good business. Big crowd at the SSCA booth but I couldn't tell how many were signing up as opposed to old-home week for cruisers. Lots of people around Pussers although there was room to move for a change on the deck above.

All in all it was a great show -- easiest to move around and least bumping on the docks on a sunny weekend that I can recall.
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