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Anyone ever try Polynesian navigation techniques?

I'm a big fan of Polynesian sailing boats and sailing techniques. I have no real clue about Polynesian navigation though.

I have seen a few youtube clips, basically these guys settled the entire Pacific with navigation based on cloud watching, observing sky colors, wave direction, monitoring wildlife around the boat, etc.

There are some things that are similarly used in western navigation techniques, for example watching for certain kinds of birds and their direction of flight to find land..But I have never heard of anyone finding land by using wave direction.

Has anyone ever tried this out or done any training in it?
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it's a little more advanced than that. They knew the world was round. They also knew what island was under what star any given time of the year. They were excellent navigotors, and if you go here

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it's a little more advanced than that. They knew the world was round. They also knew what island was under what star any given time of the year. They were excellent navigotors, and if you go here

Polynesian Voyaging Society

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Here is also a web site link that is following 7 voyaging canoes that are currently enroute. Depending on where you are, you may be able to visit them. Check out the GPS logging map on the site- they are now in San Diego and I think will be there through hurricane season.
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They also knew what island was under what star any given time of the year.
What does it mean for an island to be "under" a star? Most stars sweep over an entire parallel's worth of geographic positions throughout the night.
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The wave/bird/cloud formation method was only used once they got close to the island using other navigational techniques. They could generally use stellar navigation to get very close, but would need other methods to hone in on the exact location of the island they were voyaging to. Waves/swells were followed even when well out to sea but in a form of dead reckoning. If cloud cover was obscuring stars or the sun, they could stay on course for several hours by keeping their boat at the same angle to the swells, hopefully long enough to catch a glimpse of a helpful star in between the cloud cover.

One of my favorite stories is that of the famed blind navigator who could divine the location of his canoe just by "feeling" the water. Most historians think that by the time he got old and blind his apprentices, who had vision, could do most of the work and tell him where they were. But the chief of his tribe thought he was some kind of miraculous navigator, and stories about him still abound in western culture.

Although many of the greatest migrations were done in narrow beamed catamarans, lots of voyaging was done in proas, which I find absolutely intriguing. A great book about pacific island proas and culture generally on a micronesian island is "east is a big bird", available softcover on amazon.

A good book on improvised navigational techniques is "low tech navigation". It's also a softcover available on amazon.com.
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What does it mean for an island to be "under" a star? Most stars sweep over an entire parallel's worth of geographic positions throughout the night.
Wikipedia describes how this was done:
Polynesian navigation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, I understand some polynesian navigators tasted the ocean and could navigate by that. Makes sense as the ocean currents are generally constant and probably taste different depending on where they are coming from. Just gottta have a good sense of taste!
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" Most stars sweep over an entire parallel's worth of "
And if you just know whether you are east or west of that island, that's all you need to know. Just chase the star, follow that parallel, and you'll hit the island.
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"The Last Navigator" by Stephen D. Thomas explains a lot of it. I have found that, out on the water if you open your eyes, ears and nose, the concepts become more clear.
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Not to sound like Jimmy the greek but by using this method they made sure only the good navigators were able to reproduce.
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Funny, band aid, but Jimmy the Greek you are not. That's more of a Darwinist twist.
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