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Blue water trailer sailers

After following this board for some time, I wasn't sure there was such a thing, but here is one.

27' Van De Stadt Sailboat and Trailer


Made in Holland, and sailed to Texas on her own keel.

Anyone know of any others?
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Any other what? Blue water boats on a trailer? If thats what you are asking about, look at a Nor'sea 27. 8 foot beam, designed to do 55 mph to weather.
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The Van De Stadt 27 may well be a legitimate "blue water" boat (however you want to define that). I don't know. What I do know is that the fact that it sailed across the Atlantic is proof of absolutely nothing.

Can't remember the name of the guy who did it, but someone sailed across the Atlantic in a 14' open, unballasted boat. Accomplishing this feat did NOTHING to change the fact that a 14' open, unballasted boat is an incredibly poor choice for bluewater passages.

Indeed, what this proves is that any particular voyage is more about the sailor than it is about the sailboat.
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I know a plastic grocery bag that drifted from New York to Bordeaux, France. Does that make it a blue water grocery bag?

Van de Stadt are good builders, but at 27 feet it is still very much "Oh lord the sea is so vast and my boat so small..."
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Surface area of Atlantic ocean = 41,100,000 sq miles
Surface area of 27 foot boat = 216 sq feet
surface area of Swan 56 (56*16) = 896 sq ft

"Van de Stadt are good builders, but at 27 feet it is still very much "Oh lord the sea is so vast and my boat so small."

My point? Any boat, even an aircraft carrier is a speck compared to the area of an ocean.
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Average wave height in blue water: bigger than 27' boat.
Smaller than aircraft carrier.

One of the reasons a 27' boat is barred from the Bermuda races, etc. as being TOO SMALL for the purpose.

Big is a relative thing. 27' is simply at the lower end of the pecking order at sea.
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I know a plastic grocery bag that drifted from New York to Bordeaux, France. Does that make it a blue water grocery bag?
LOL good point
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Nearly a dozen beach cats (18'-21') have crossed the Atlantic, so my Hobie Tiger must be a bluewater boat Cats Across the Atlantic

If you read through the link though, you'll see that even the people foolish enough to do it don't recommend it to anyone. They routinely had to stand up to get their heads above the water, which made sleep rather difficult.
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Norsea 27. Her history is not of a random crossing of the Atlantic, but dozens of crossings and a few circumnavigations. She is built for blue water. As Capnmeme said, one answer to the OP's question...
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