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....As per buying overpriced products on sight thinking a $2 profit on a quart of oil will somehow keep a poorly managed or poorly staffed facility in bussiness (or a good faciliy), thats just wishful thinking......
I suppose that's true, but it wasn't the point. Too many will gripe about a few dollars, no matter the service level. A marina can't afford the volume discounts that WM or DEF can and don't turn over product as fast. Therefore, their cost to carry inventory is higher.

I've even heard of people won't buy fuel at their home marina because the neighbors sells it for ten cents less. On the average sailboat that's maybe ten bucks per year.

It really isn't a wonder why marinas consider people like this to be cheap.
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Sailors tend to be penny wise and pound foolish...at least by the boats I have been on...also lured by shiny beads...but cheap, nah.

I would also guess the marina attitude is a $/hassle ratio thing. Sailboats are long and wide and slow and clumsy and the captains tend to be less flexible and more stressed because of it.
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If "I" compared the folks in the CYC club vs the non CYC club at my marina.......sailors are VERYVERYVERYVERY VERY CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAP! The cyc folks complain about the $65 dues, the other at 350 consider it cheap for what they/I/we have! The CYC club anchors out whenever possible, the other uses a marina. Boat size is 10' smaller with the CYC club.

Member ship size, the CYC club has 48 members, dropping total ave of 3-5 over the last 4 years, non CYC club, 18 of 141 are sail boat, 50 new in last 3-4 years with 14 of the 50 sailboats, NONE transferred from the other club!

BUT, as others have pointed out, smile at your resident or non resident marina, tip where appropriate, a port employee I doubt it is appropriate, but if the fuel dock is private run, quite possible. Same with dock hands.

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What and/or when is tipping appropriate? Years back I remember my Dad buying two bucks worth of gas and tipping the attendant 25 cents, but that was 1954.
Knowing how restaurants screw with their employees ( really $2.10 an HOUR) I'll always try for 20 % for the waitstaff. In hotels I'll leave 2-3 dollars for the house maid ( or house man maybe?) Outside the USA in many places a couple dollars makes a difference for the people on both sides of the equation but here if it makes a dent in college tuition it also makes a dent in me.
Tell me dear readers - what am I to do?
A couple months ago I went into Georgetown Yacht Basin in a nasty rain and wind. The manager and his helper were in the launch, led me to the mooring, picked the painter off the ball and secured it to my bow. Classy and appreciated, and I thanked them later when I paid for the night. Should I have tipped someone? Who? The manager?? The helper???
I'm a working schmo with a boat, if "I" offered "me" a tip I think I'd be insulted. Practically speaking when I hit the fuel dock and put $50 on my credit or debit card am I expected to tip - as in add a gratuity like in a restaurant? I'm kind, not demanding, don't spill or create cleanups. I smile, offer cold drinks on hot days....should I be like Rodney Dangerfield in caddyshack?
I don't have an aversion to tipping appropriately and sure don't want to run afoul the tipping police but I have enough to think about in life to skip calculating 10-13-20% on each transaction, then handing two bucks to the millionaire who just docked his superyacht and was kind enough to grab my line as he walked by.
Oh the vexation! What is one to do?
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i would never tip anyone except an employee and i would be offended if someone did me,an offer of maybe a cold beer is the more approperate action for a favor from a fellow boater,most dock hands are usually appresiative of any modest tip[depending on the area and the amount of effort/time]in most of the coastal areas i think most marina's have a rule that the attendant hands you the hose and you pump your own[insurance regulations maybe] i know that some "superyachts" tip big but most very little,i've attended fuel docks before and a $5 dollar tip is very rare
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Without getting into the tipping debate, I've noticed a little less friendliness from marinas that seem more powerboat oriented, but mixed marinas, and sail-oriented marinas have always been pretty welcoming.

I'm still branching out though, so my experience is limited.
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So far so good. Friendly folks all around. Next time I gas up, I'll tip the kid.
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It's not that sailors are cheap, it's that they are perceived to be cheap. Not exclusive to sailors. Some are cheap, some frugal, some are pushovers and pay, pay, pay. Think about your family members/friends/coworkers, they will all fit in somewhere. That's what makes the world go round. The challenge is sortting them out and spending more time with the ones you like. And some need to figure out where they fit in too.
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