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A list of ALL boats with specs and layouts?

Note:I''v listed this question in the "buying a boat" catagory as I think it is topical there too.

Unlike cars and thier makers, you can''t find even the most general info on so many makes and makers of sailboats. (im'' not talking about the biggest makers like Hunter, Beneteau, Catalina so on and so forth. But all those not seen often and rarely sea trialed in any magazine. I see some wonderfully beautiful sailboats out there and I''m in the market so I really don''t want to just settle for the a mass produced and - see - 50 - of - em - in -every - marina( maybe I will in the end, but hey...I wanna know what I may be missing). I''m surprised too, as a boat purchase is got to be the second most expensive thing a person will buy( a home being #1). I was surprised at the shear volume of boats for sale and how little info on most there is to read about and study up on! There should be some general registry where all makers of boats by manufactures or even one-off specialty makers list the specs with layout diagrams at the bare minumum(like in the book Boatwatch).

BOATWATCH(out of print I think) list many many makes of sailboats and layouts and profiles. Must be hundreds(1600 sailboats) listed yet not nearly all the boats made and sold out there. Only from the late 70''s thru early early 90''s are in the book, with so many models not listed in the same class. I called the author to inquire if he would be publishing another volume from where he left off(early ninties). He said he would, but it would be the last edition! OK, that will be great but in the meantime, anyone know if such a volume of info, and as complete a body of specs on boat makers and thier boats exist?

And again, I am not talking about HUNTER, CATALINA OR any of the makers of kazillion''s sold and counting. We can all find info on those. Here''s an example and perhaps some homework for you folks who think its easy to find anything you want on the internet or thru some broker who he himslf doesn''t seem to know, cause the internet is the end all answer to everything(maybe someday...but not yet).

Try to find information on the following "brands" like actual manufacturer(not the end user like so many Charter companies renaming the boats they purchase in volume).

Sometimes I see, or am told who desiged the boat...but not who actually built her and a contact I can email or talk to. I want where she was built and what thier reputation is, as well as spec sheets.

Info like hull layup type and inner glass framing or are bulk heads glassed in etc. Electrical specs, hardware suppliers, plumming parcatices, is the hull cored and how many layups...?

Here are some brands:

Apollo 57(as found in some Greek charter fleets)
Creekmore
Skipper( as in some greek charter fleets)
Siai
Alpha 53
Amazon(the bigger yachts - perhaps by metalcraft...but where are they?)
kirie
J&J Design( who are these guys and where?)
S&S (NOT SPARKMAN AND STEVENS)
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