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Old 12-10-2011
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Our current boat is the boat, so I don't expect to be selling her until the dream dies, or we do. At nearly 35 years old, our Rafiki 37 is in great shape. With reasonable maintenance she will long outlast me .
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When I bought my last boat in 2002 (Bavaria 36) I thought that it would be my last sailboat and could well have been. I sold it in 2009 because I had the money for a better boat and because the boat was approaching the time where I would have to spend some serious money in maintenance: New sails, new standing rigging, new running rigging, new epoxy barrier, new batteries, new spraywood, new bimini and in not much time, new electronic and a overall on the engine.

All that money would be wasted unless I stayed with a boat otherwise it would add little value to the boat (I learned that the hard way).

The boat still sails exactly as I have sold it, with the same sails and all, but the Italian I have sold it to don't use it like I used to do, I mean with long range cruising.

With proper maintenance a boat like that can be around for more than 30 years and that means that would have lasted all my life.

I preferred not to waste any money on the Bavaria maintenance and add that money to the value of the used boat to buy a new boat that will be maintenance free for the first 10 years or so.

The new boat will not be much bigger (2ft bigger), but more modern, faster more seaworthy and nicer and it certainly will outlast me

A last comment regarding cultural differences: I have noticed that many Americans talk about new boats as if they should last 50 years or more, and see defects in building techniques and details that instead of lasting 50 years will only last 30 or 25.

Nothing wrong with that but the funny thing is that while on Europe we tend to look at the boats as timed limited objects (maybe with the exception of the British), like cars, we tend to look at houses as hereditary objects, I mean, many houses are own by the same families for centuries and they pass from father to children. As result the traditional European house is built to outlast its owner and the generations to come while the American traditional house (I am talking about single houses) is built in a much less solid way and has a limited duration.

Of course it makes some sense to build a house to a limited duration, like boats, it will be a lot less expensive, but if you try that here nobody will want it even if the house will clearly outlive the owners time frame. I guess that the same happens in America regarding boats.

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Bought my last boat this summer. I expect the Rapture to last for the rest of my life. She could be considered my last hurrah. She is a wonderful live.....Er Cruising vessel.
And with plenty of room for guests and I will still have my privacy. The aft cabin is the Captain's cabin (thats Me!!)
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After 14 years of ownership, we traded a Beneteau 411 for a new Sabre 426. The Beneteau was in good condition but we anticipated a number of refits - some of which will be necessary but others more difficult to predict. After weighing potential costs and desired upgrades, we elected to move to a more robust boat with improved performance and electric primaries that might allow us to sail for another couple of decades.
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My can sell the boat three days after I'm dead!

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I think I made all of my buying mistakes with my Coronado 25. I'm very, very happy with my Pearson 30, and I can't see far enough into the future when I'd get rid of her.

I don't want to have to singlehand more boat than a 30 footer.
I don't want to pay more for dockage than I do for a 30 footer.
I don't think I could afford to properly maintain more than a 30 footer.
I have standing headroom through 80% of the boat.
There is plenty of living space for one or two, and guests would be very rare.
The boat sails well in the light air of the Chesapeake, and is fast enough for me.
The boat is in very solid condition.

As long as those criteria continue to be met, I can't envision selling it. I keep running through the criteria in my head, hoping that I've made the right choice. It sure feels right.
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I have had my Union Polaris 36 for 19 years, and I would not part with that ship.
That one I keep.
If you get your ship looking and performing the way you want, keep it.
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Interesting responses and pretty much what I anticipated. I think that in 20 (or more years) most of the quality boats of today (that may already be 30+ years old) will be around and probably in good condition since they have doting owners. My understanding of the used boat market today is that there are relatively few used boats less than 10 years old (not a surprise since the number of new boats being sold 10 years ago was not high) and lots of boats from the 1970s to 1980s, that are proving to be hard to sell. In 2030, there could be a lot of boats for sale that are 50 to 60 years old and still going strong - and still not many relatively new boats because a quality boat today is so costly. The nearest comparitor to my boat that I could find in new market (and it is not perfect, but both cruising boats of similar displacement) was the Island Packet 46 (or thereabouts) and it was something over $700,000.

Combine this with Paulo's European perspective and it is quite interesting.
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Been sailing about a year and lookin for my third. Fiberglass will outlast us all but I want a bigger boat!!
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Been sailing about a year and lookin for my third. Fiberglass will outlast us all but I want a bigger boat!!
A personal economic stimulus package.

i imagine you will slow down after about 5 years and 17 boats.
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