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It's kind of funny how some people knock some safety gear like ladders, trailing a line, jack lines, life vest etc.

With me my boat is full of all kinds of safety gear. The way I look at it there is probably a small chance any of it will ever be used or save a life. But what it does do is let me know in my own mind I have done everything I can do to make the boat safe.

With my mind at ease knowing I've done everything I can safety wise, I can now concentrate on sailing the boat and carrying out requried task in a thoughtful and safe manner- and that alone may prevent me form getting into a life threatning situation in the first place. Relative to the cost of boat ownership, safety gear is cheap and will last a long time if cared for.
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I have not yet purchased my boat, but as one whoe does many things solo (climbing, backcounty skiing, cycling) I look forward to my solo sailing adventures. My question is how is a solo sailor convered by insurance either along the coastal US or in the Bahamas or Caribbean?

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I resort to "Don't ask, Don't tell".
Well, that might present a problem when push comes to shove, in the event you ever have to actually file a claim...

I can't imagine any American insurance company underwriting a singlehanded, open-ended float plan... Not without it being prohibitively expensive, at any rate...

It's become increasingly difficult for even Mom & Pop cruisers to obtain coverage for offshore passages, lots of policies are now requiring additional crew aboard for a trip such as the Caribbean 1500...

the last 2 boats I've run to the islands, the owner's policy has required a minimum of 3 aboard... On my last trip, I took the boat solo from CT to Hampton, and while the owner's insurance allowed it, the coverage was quite specific in stating that any "intended singlehanded passage of more than 18 hours" would disqualify any coverage in the event of an incident, and I was compelled to make a stop in Cape May (which I would have, in any event)...

Can't imagine why, but most insurance folks seem to be kind of sticklers for that whole "maintaining a proper watch" thingy... (grin)
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TQA and JonE. the line is not a fallacy. One of our favorite things to do is "surf" behind our sail boat. There are few S/V going above 8 knts. Holding on a rope slows the boat down tremendously but it does pull us along. It is fun and tiresome but we do it over and over again as that Great Lakes water is a nice cool off in Mid Summer. I agree that you have to be careful approaching the stern but I have a ladder. I'm also in my late fifties and weigh a small 260 lbs and I never had a problem pulling my self to the boat and I can't do 10 push-ups in a row.
Believe me when you want to get back to the boat you'll manage. The hardest part will be getting back in the boat, therefore don't fall overboard but if you do your auto PFD and a rope will give you some assurance. As for foul-weather clothing I'll don it and climb on board naked.
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Well, that might present a problem when push comes to shove, in the event you ever have to actually file a claim...

I can't imagine any American insurance company underwriting a singlehanded, open-ended float plan... Not without it being prohibitively expensive, at any rate...

It's become increasingly difficult for even Mom & Pop cruisers to obtain coverage for offshore passages, lots of policies are now requiring additional crew aboard for a trip such as the Caribbean 1500...

the last 2 boats I've run to the islands, the owner's policy has required a minimum of 3 aboard... On my last trip, I took the boat solo from CT to Hampton, and while the owner's insurance allowed it, the coverage was quite specific in stating that any "intended singlehanded passage of more than 18 hours" would disqualify any coverage in the event of an incident, and I was compelled to make a stop in Cape May (which I would have, in any event)...

Can't imagine why, but most insurance folks seem to be kind of sticklers for that whole "maintaining a proper watch" thingy... (grin)
I have a policy that will cover me 75 miles of any US coast. After that I am on my own- boat is paid for, so my loss only. Have read my policy and it says nothing of minimum crew. Like I say, don't ask don't tell. PO single handed boat around the world and I believe she had a policy from Lyods. Not really sure what it covered. BTW- she towed a 75 foot poly line that would float- in case she fell overboard.

In life I generally find if you ask permission, you are generally denied (in the US this is mostly due to the fact we have too many lawyers), so its best not to ask. Just do it until someone tells you to stop (my kids also believe in this tactic).

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TQA and JonE. the line is not a fallacy. One of our favorite things to do is "surf" behind our sail boat. There are few S/V going above 8 knts. Holding on a rope slows the boat down tremendously but it does pull us along. It is fun and tiresome but we do it over and over again as that Great Lakes water is a nice cool off in Mid Summer. I agree that you have to be careful approaching the stern but I have a ladder. I'm also in my late fifties and weigh a small 260 lbs and I never had a problem pulling my self to the boat and I can't do 10 push-ups in a row.
Believe me when you want to get back to the boat you'll manage. The hardest part will be getting back in the boat, therefore don't fall overboard but if you do your auto PFD and a rope will give you some assurance. As for foul-weather clothing I'll don it and climb on board naked.
I did this in the Chesapeake bay off a friends sail boat. It was pretty cool, you can aim down and be pulled deeper into the water. I would like to do this in hawaii but little afraid in an off shore water situation as could loose someone. We also have quite a few sharks- don't want to troll for them.
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I solo most times as well. The skipjack rig often needs one reef in the main and I have learned to go ahead and do it on the slightest suspicion. Then it handles wonderfully. I am learning to anticipate, plan, handle the boat in a calm purposeful way. A lot has changed. Lazarettes now contain entirely different gear than at the beginning...as do the cubbies near the companionway. I really enjoy hearing from all the members who solo and I read constantly. Often part of my days sail will be trying something out that i need to learn or testing something someone else spoke of in a thread. I have been impressed with the generosity on this website and that reminds me that water people really are special. One thing I am looking forward to this year is going east into the broader sections of the Bay where the water and swells have some fetch. Later as time permits a few sails near and through the inlet at slack tide....
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Great info ... trading large propeller for small propeller less tonnage and quiet sails and warmer water
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mostly solo

I solo about 75% of the time and find it to be exactly the challenge I was looking for. I realized I like running my sheets across the cockpit so I can trim them better from the high side. Check out a pretty typical solo sail of mine:


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Comfortable run in the cool weather ... Check that starboard lifeline .. you were the only one on the boat!
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100% of the time, including active racing.
Take a look at my free book at: Singlehanded Tips Book where I discuss most of the issues brought up here. I'm always looking for new ideas.
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