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... Is the carnage you mention happening to boats from "away"? There are not that many "hidden" spots if the skipper is competent.

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I would expect that the carnage for one thing, involves boats from anywhere that are doing their navigation without reference to paper charts.

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I would expect that the carnage for one thing, involves boats from anywhere that are doing their navigation without reference to paper charts.
All it takes is that simple distraction of a wife bending you ear while trying to find a gunkhole. Even if they are on charts one would have to keep their nose glued to the chart to find the ones that are a like volcano growing up out of the sea.

The one I hit, has been hit so many times that is a joke for the locals. It hada marker but the powerboaters kept running over it. Not big enough, I guess.

Find this on on your charts 50 3.957N x 124 49.005W

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I have to agree that a competent skipper can be distracted! No texting!

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I am amazed at that number of hard groundings / year. I spend much of the sailing season along the Maine coast and have many friends who sail here. I only know of two hard hits around MDI in the past few years. I guess I don't know as many sailors as I thought. My sailing friends are "locals". Is the carnage you mention happening to boats from "away"? There are not that many "hidden" spots if the skipper is competent.

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A lot are from away but a lot are from here too. I know of three boats that hit ledge this season during races while trying to avoid tacking. I suspect the folks up your way might not be telling you of their groundings? I know my two customers were a little bashful. One hit Upper Basket and the other hit Lower Basket ledge.

I am in and out of yards all week so I get to see the boats on the hard with the keel damage. Most are just buttered up, faired and re-launched and some just haul to check then re-launch without repair and hold off until the winter..

That number of course is just a rough guess based on what I see here in Casco Bay and I extrapolated it out to the rest of the coast...

I would guess Casco Bay has at least 75-100 hard groundings. We have approx one or two boats per week on the ledges just off our anchorage, Upper Basket Ledge, Lower Basket Ledge, Sturdivant Ledge, & Lower Clapboard Ledge are some of the more popular ones for donating lead to, and that just what's within eye sight.

Heck even one of our local Schooner captains put his boat on a ledge not once but TWICE!! Oh and the Portland Fire Boat hit ledge too..... So it's not just us "amateurs"...

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A quick look at the charts of Casco Bay and the waters near MDI, suggests there are more opportunities to "donate lead" where you are. We certainly have our share of beautiful Maine granite but our sailing spaces are not as "compromised" by ledges in the high traffic areas. Setting a race course in Western Way or Great Harbor almost never needs to come close to water less than 5 fathoms deep. I will be extra cautious next summer if I make it down the coast that far. Racing is a separate category of judgment calls. Especially if you can afford the risk of repairs for a win.

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One of the first sayings I learned about boats was "Anyone who says they've never hit bottom is either a liar or has never left the dock."

While it may not be literally true, it's close enough.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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In my 40 years of sailing along the Maine coast and 15 years elsewhere I have certainly "misjudged" the depth more than once. It hasn't happened to me on my Islander, yet! Ha! I have used a cb as a depth sounder! My Marshal Catboat hits a sand bar about once a year but I am aware of the shallows and expect it. Smacking a ledge at speed with a deep fin is something I have managed to avoid. I will keep trying!

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