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Chris,

OK, so noted, 50 extra gallons or so should hold you for a day or two. As said earlier a small motor is better than no motor. Hope it all works out as planned, keep us posted.

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Chris, that's a good idea... but like most, it's not new. We had a boat built in 1982 with exactly that setup - a 24 foot dayracer that raced one-design with the motor below on the cabin sole. We had the exact same type of bracket that accepted the more standard lighter duty spring loaded OB bracket.

We left the motor on the bracket and lifted the whole assembly off the slider just as you plan to do.. there was a keeper pin to prevent the motor/mount from 'hopping' off the transom on a big wave.

Nevertheless, good thinking, and nice work - should work fine!
Thanks! You wouldn't happen to have any pics would you? I'd love to see another design on this idea.
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Thanks! You wouldn't happen to have any pics would you? I'd love to see another design on this idea.
No close-ups, but here's a couple of views I found on the web.. you can see the molded recess where the slide plate was installed, (it's aluminum unlike your SS fabrication)

These are Vancouver (now SoCal) built Martin 242s... great little boats...

One shot without motor/bracket, the other with bracket.



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Seems like an uncharacteristically pragmatic way of dealing with having no engine.....I'm concerned you can make baiting comments all winter long but in the spring you better be heading somewhere.
The way you wrote that last part sounds like you're coming for me when your ice cave melts and you emerge this spring

Re; pragmatism - I hear you but what else can I do? Unless it's "on the outside, all the time", I need a small amount of motor for the locks/ narrow unsailable channels, no? This bracket was born out of the many discussions/debates/arguments right here on the motorless topic you know... I take things seriously (even when I don't), and I freely admit many of you made good arguments.
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No close-ups, but here's a couple of views I found on the web.. you can see the molded recess where the slide plate was installed, (it's aluminum unlike your SS fabrication)

These are Vancouver (now SoCal) built Martin 242s... great little boats...

One shot without motor/bracket, the other with bracket.



Neat. I suppose if it worked in aluminum, it'll certainly work in steel. Thanks Faster..
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Nice job Chris! I've often thought that a mount similar to that, but much longer top to bottom, would be a great way to store the outboard. When you want to put it on the dingy just pull a pin and slide it down to water level and hop in the dinghy to transfer it to the transom. Or if the main engine/prop is kaput, use the outboard for propulsion like you are planning to do. When done just pull it up and lock in place. Seeyalatermoonglow has a nifty setup that does what I"m doing a crummy job of trying to explain, his uses an aluminum tube to go up and down on.
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Nice job Chris! I've often thought that a mount similar to that, but much longer top to bottom, would be a great way to store the outboard. When you want to put it on the dingy just pull a pin and slide it down to water level and hop in the dinghy to transfer it to the transom. Or if the main engine/prop is kaput, use the outboard for propulsion like you are planning to do. When done just pull it up and lock in place. Seeyalatermoonglow has a nifty setup that does what I"m doing a crummy job of trying to explain, his uses an aluminum tube to go up and down on.
Thank you! A longer version for higher freeboard boats is a great idea, especially the dink transfer you mentioned. Just drill more "pin setting" areas, and you have a full range of use. I have way low freeboard, and when I mount the mount there will only be a couple of inches on top or bottom due to my stern shape (making a boat to dink transfer of the o/b pretty level already).

I have also been thinking about an amidship removable mount for an o/b in addition to this one a la Yves Gelinas, (versatility, options are always a good thing)..
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I have also been thinking about an amidship removable mount for an o/b in addition to this one a la Yves Gelinas, (versatility, options are always a good thing)..
???...Tell us more, can't visualize what you mean or what it would do.

By the way, I also hate the motor hanging off look, along with (on a smaller boat) the leverage of the weight out there effecting the handling. I have a Victoria 18 with a stern similar to yours and could not bear to hang the included new motor, hated it.

Last summer I purchased 8ft. oars, the longest I could get overhead in the quarter berths, and experimented around till I found the best place to mount oarlocks. With such a small boat, the oars worked quite well coming into the boat ramp/trailer, the wharf, or getting out of a windless bay behind islands into the open. I rigged an electric trolling motor with plug in wiring to a solar battery, just in case, but kept it defiantly lashed to the bow pulpit.

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I have also been thinking about an amidship removable mount for an o/b in addition to this one a la Yves Gelinas, (versatility, options are always a good thing)..
Or for a BBQ Grill! You could potentially use that mount for a lot of things... Ladder perhaps?
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???...Tell us more, can't visualize what you mean or what it would do.
Well, here is Yves Gelinas idea - it's a "swing arm" arrangement that puts his o/b on the quarter:



.. what I'm gonna do is make a removable mount that brings the motor closer to amidships, but not quite amidships. Yves uses a 15hp (I Think)..

I'd also like to make it much less intrusive/large than pictured above. Something akin to a "T" shape, that may drop in and secure with pins, still working it out. If it could be made simple enough, maybe it could be used on both sides on an as needed basis, whichever side weather (or whatever) allows it to function best on. I'll sketch a drawing sometime soon and post it here.. I have seen a small "sort of" version of what I'm thinking at Bacons once, but I have no idea who made it (might have been a one off)..
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