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Old 08-24-2014   #361
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

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I really like your recommendation of using lighter and smaller diameter rope for the JSD! It's such a tedious task to pack all that thick and heavy stuff back in the bag..

In the 2 times that I brought in the JSD I used a self tailing jib sheet winch. A laborious task taking at least half an hour (and really killing my arm!).. I only ripped the cones when they got crunched in the self tailer part of the winch. My impression is that there would be less that could damage the cones if I did Hal Roth's way. I think the anchor roller and windlass drum are big enough for nothing to snag. Using the electric winch I could tail it myself... and I wouldn't have to kill my arm cranking... I'm looking forward to trying it!



On my smaller Westsail 32 I could always man handle the jib furler by pulling the line by hand. Difficult in heavier wind, but possible. But on my bigger Westsail 42 it's just about impossible to furl the jib in heavy air without a winch.. I think my big mistake was not installing a self tailing winch for furling the jib.. It made everything so much harder to correct when I accidentally gybed when that squall hit. I was spending forever battling with trying to get the jib in by pulling the line in by hand... Never again! I'm installing a self tailing winch for furling the jib before we push off...
Probably the most important attribute of a good sailor is to be humble and admit your mistakes. The cocky sailors, get into trouble and don't learn from their mistakes. The humble sailor recognizes he can learn from anyone and constantly gets better. It sure beats golf where we tend to get worse not better.
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Old 08-24-2014   #362
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

It's good to be humble and listen to advice but you have to be cocky. You hve to have a big ego, lots of self esteem and be cocky. If not you will never leave.

Plus, most people tell you not to go, probably because they feel they have to have crew, and if someone singlehands it, it minimizes their accomplishment. So they call it luck, or whatever. If you don't have hubris you'll just sit at home second guessing everything.

This guy, while I didn't watch everything, left, made some mistakes, and made it to Bermuda. So he was tired for six days. Lesson here? Just do it.
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Old 08-24-2014   #363
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

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Over and out means you are signing off. Over, means back to you and you are waiting for a response.
Actually not quite.

"Over" means 'I'm done talking and will listen for your reply.'

"Out" means 'I'm done talking and closing down my station.'

So "Over and out" means 'I'm done talking and you can talk now but I won't be listening.'

*grin*

"Over and out" is a generation of TV (and we know how reliable they are) and the CB craze of the 70s.

I've heard "Go" used as a synonym for "Over" which seems reasonable.

Interestingly I've seen TV police officers say "over and out" before leaping out of the car to chase after someone, so I guess they really meant "I'm done talking and you can talk now but I won't be listening." *grin* It always gives me the giggles.
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

Thought given you are suppose to monitor 16 continuously ending with s/v ---- on one six or s/v---- back to one six ( if changing back) was a good way to end and s/v--- to ---s/v ---or m/v or f/v--- on one six ( or current working frequency ) for turning mike back to them. ? Is this wrong?
Avoid "over" and "roger" as confusing although "roger that" seems ok
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

I enjoyed watching the video's although I had to skim through some and skipped the middle ones completely. Judicious editing would help a lot.

I like that he is not afraid to admit his mistakes. I dislike people who won't admit they can make mistakes. One of the best times I had was a night of sailors in a circle talking about their biggest screw ups. One fellow would not admit to ever having made a mistake, and it diminished him in my eyes, because we all have made mistakes. And talking about them is a good way to help others avoid those same mistakes.
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As far as I've seen - yes. He does a lot of big sailing in a lot of nice places on a lot of nice boats. It's not like he's a complete newb.

Check out his YouTube channel.

(PS - I like the part where he admits his real fear in some pretty scary conditions, and I like that you can see him really mulling over what it will mean to answer that Pan-Pan. It's really great stuff. From a joyous dinner on night one to 6 more days of exhausted hell. His boat sure did right by him.)
The tension was absolutely palpable when the Pan-Pan came through. Highlight of the series. I've seen a few of his other shorts and was sort of on the fence about him. This made me like him.
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

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Probably the most important attribute of a good sailor is to be humble and admit your mistakes. The cocky sailors, get into trouble and don't learn from their mistakes. The humble sailor recognizes he can learn from anyone and constantly gets better. It sure beats golf where we tend to get worse not better.
Good advice.

If you're feeling cocky, go to sea. If your not humbled by the time you get back, you weren't out long enough.
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

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"Both skippers would have likely been able to reduce sail area at the critical time more effectively and quickly by dropping a hanked-on jib to the deck and securing it, instead of having to contend with an uncooperative roller furling system."

For my 2 cents worth, if one is having that much trouble furling a jib, I'm not too sure I want to be on the foredeck wrestling a hanked sail down and either tie it to the lifelines or unhank it and get it below. Much better to learn to work the furler in heavy weather, IMO.
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I can assure you I would not be so quick to render assistance. The completeness of the problems on Cha Cha clearly indicated the skipper should have been disregarded as an intelligent sailor, and my concerns would have been for his crew.
BS.

You need to help a fellow sailor regardless of your assumptions. EVERYONE deserves help when they are in distress*. Period. If you're really that self-assured get off the ocean. Save the lecture for when you are home.

(*Drake knew that. Which is why I respect him.)
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Re: Reality at Sea - For Cruisers, Singlehanders, and Normal People.

Smack, I agree - you should always help someone in distress - ALWAYS!

I watched this some time ago, and some of the things Drake did just didn't make much sense to me, especially deploying the parachute off the stern while heaving to. Seemed like a good way to take a big wave over the stern. And, it surely would not help him achieve the proper 50 degree bow angle needed to stem the vessel's progress.

I also could not believe he did not have stop knots in his halyards or sheets - I always thought that was just common sense, but maybe I'm wrong.

Also wondered why Cha Cha could not have rigged an emergency steering system. Maybe her captain was just dumb as dirt - at least it seemed that way.

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