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Is there another Brewers in Stamford?
Yes,,,,Brewer's Yacht Haven East.....but there's no yard


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Connecticut has a coastal zone management plan that gives preference to "water dependent" uses of property within that zone. The policy also seeks to improve access to the water for recreational uses. It wouldn't surprise me if the condo development had some dock space to take advantage of those state policies. However, even if the condos don't include dockage or other "water dependent uses", it doesn't mean that they can't be permitted under state law.
Yes that is constantly brought up, but unfortunately all BLT plans on doing is having some private docks behind the condos and providing a kayak launch and public pier.

Lack of coastal access is a big pet-peeve of mine (read my blog), but many developers exploit loopholes in the Coastal Management Plan and simply provide a "public area" as an afterthought in order to comply


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The path the ct is on they should be building a sewage treatment plant to handle all the bs flowing out of Hartford.
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Angela Carella column in the Stamford Advocate:

Stamford is set up for a showdown with its biggest developer and one of its largest property owners, Building and Land Technology.

The Norwalk company is remaking a chunk of the old industrial South End into Harbor Point, a neighborhood of high-end rentals with waterfront views. It's a project developers have attempted for 30 years.

During that time city officials have insisted that, however the South End is remade, one thing must remain -- a working boatyard, a messy place where boats are put in, hauled out, scraped and painted; where holes in hulls are repaired and propellers and engines are fixed out of water; where sails are rigged and boats can be pumped out, fueled up, washed and stored for the winter.



Read more: Angela Carella: City vs. builder in battle over boatyard - StamfordAdvocate
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To be fair, I would have to understand the back story here. I am sure there is one. It's unusual for a municipality to insist on a boat yard. Rather, they typically have a concern over pollution and, unlike our feelings, being able to see masts from far away.

Good zoning should have diverse use requirements and a boatyard can only exist on the waterfront. Apartments can be anywhere. However, the citizens of Stamford will need to decide.

I'm rooting for the city on this one.


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PDF of the Harbor Point plan

http://construction.org/clientuploads/Macleod.pdf


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That plan lists a "full service" marina, although I couldn't find anything that looked like one.
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City orders developer to halt construction on boatyard site
South End: Zoning Board tells Harbor Point developer to halt construction on boatyard site

"- The city's Zoning Board will tell the developer of Harbor Point to halt construction at a contested 14-acre boatyard site in the South End that is part of a redevelopment plan.

"Close it up, chain it, gate it, don't go back to it until you come back to us with a plan," said Tom Mills, the board's chairman at a meeting late Monday.

Board members unanimously voted to approve a draft resolution that orders property owner and developer Building and Land Technology to cease all construction activities on the property, including the removal or deposit of soils, until the board has received and approved an application to redevelop the site. "


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An update:

After weeks of mounting pressure, the developer of Harbor Point announced for the first time at a public hearing this week that it would build a working boatyard as part of its development in the South End.
"Harbor Point is committed to having a working boatyard for Stamford," said John Freeman, a lawyer and spokesman for developer Building and Land Technology, on Monday night before a packed crowd at Turn of River Middle School.
It was the first time Freeman publicly used the term "working boatyard" in describing his firm's redevelopment plans. In December, BLT razed a 14-acre working boatyard, Brewer's Yacht Haven, without zoning approval.

Up until recently, the developer had only promised to replace the boatyard with a "full-service marina" that would not be able to perform out-of-water repairs nor service boats longer than 50 feet.


Stamford, CT, to Retain Working Boatyard | BoatingLocal.com


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I would love to hear the real back story to what's going on here. It's so unusual for a city to give a toot about a waterfront boatyard, as happy as I am to hear it. they are as likely to hate the run off and copper bottom paint.

As far as the developer, I don't know this firm, but know tons like them. They will say anything and usually plan for long drawn out fights that often cross administrations. That's where the back story becomes interesting. If it is a faction of the local govt that likes the boatyard, all they need to do is replace them.
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