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post #11 of 16 Old 01-14-2012
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The non pressure alcohol stoves work very well, with no flare up potential. I don't mind the extra two minutes to boil a quart if it means zero risk of explosion.
Good find Jack, thanks.
Chris- my son has an alcohol stove on his boat (non-pressure, he's converting to propane) and it's not the stove that is the concern, it's the (rusty) tin gallon cans of fuel that are the worry for me (to say nothing of the $17/gal. cost and difficulty of finding it in most places). Granted you can transfer the alcohol to a regular gas can and carry it on deck, but transferring it to the cartridges in all but dead calm conditions is....messy.
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I second the wax ring idea. I think it is like the stuff in a jar they had in the video, just a lot cheaper. We have had one on board for many years and never used it - hope that continues. I think also that for leaks it does not have to be one method or another - you can combine a wooden plug with some of the wax for example with an irregularly shaped hole.

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The videos were really interesting. I was down at my boat last weekend and had brought a little portable heater that has an oxygen sensor so that it is rated for use indoors. I had it heating the cabin while I did some work. The flame went out and I thought maybe the gas bottle was empty. I unscrewed the bottle and gas immediately started shooting out of the bottle! It was clear that the valve in the top of bottle was defective. Imagine if the gas came out slowly enough that you didn't notice, and you tossed it into a locker!

I believe they make gasketed caps for the bottles, which seems like a good idea. However how good do they make something intended to be thrown away after one use?

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Good find Jack, thanks.
Chris- my son has an alcohol stove on his boat (non-pressure, he's converting to propane) and it's not the stove that is the concern, it's the (rusty) tin gallon cans of fuel that are the worry for me (to say nothing of the $17/gal. cost and difficulty of finding it in most places). Granted you can transfer the alcohol to a regular gas can and carry it on deck, but transferring it to the cartridges in all but dead calm conditions is....messy.
I'm repurposing a never used plastic holding tank as my alcohol tank, complete with a "tap" spigot (gravity fed). The cartridge opening is about 3" across, and I'm thinking it won't be an issue with the above mentioned spigot.

I know propane is the fuel of choice, but I wanted something less volatile and super simple. Plus, alcohol is available in more places worldwide than propane/propane fill stations*, and you can even make your own if you want to.

*Let me add I am talking about the drinkable stuff, not denatured, but nevertheless.. it can be used and I will use it (for both internal lubrication as well as stove fuel)..
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alcohol is available in more places worldwide than propane/propane fill stations*, and you can even make your own if you want to.
Potentially the most expensive stove fuel imaginable. I was watching one of those storage locker shows where a guy found an old copper still. He asked an old hillbilly friend what it was worth - "About 10 years" was the reply.

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Potentially the most expensive stove fuel imaginable. I was watching one of those storage locker shows where a guy found an old copper still. He asked an old hillbilly friend what it was worth - "About 10 years" was the reply.
Naturally, I meant once outside of the US..
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