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Re: Last Night at the Harvard Club

Wow, sounds like the delivery crew really did a number on her. But at least she is in one piece and you are getting situated aboard. Good luck and I hope your new home comes together nicely!
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Wow, sounds like the delivery crew really did a number on her. But at least she is in one piece and you are getting situated aboard. Good luck and I hope your new home comes together nicely!
Well, as far as the burnt out water pump, a good part of the "blame" should go to whoever decided to feed the toilets fresh water! That must have sucked up a good amount of the water, considering there were 3 people onboard for 4 days.

The main sail had a ludicrous "tab" of material for the halyard to connect to, instead of a healthier reinforced connection point.
So, though it would have been nice for one of them to retrieve the halyard, the sail design was at "fault".... :-)

Overall, the previous owner was clearly a motor boater stuck in a sailboat.
He should have bought a trawler or a Hatteras.

We will bring her around though!! Without running an 8Kw generator 24 X 7, and without flushing fresh water....

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Re: Last Night at the Harvard Club

Flushing fresh water is desired by many, to avoid odor from decaying organisms in salt water. But I'm with you. It isn't necessary, especially if you use the heads often and pump out often.

I do not know what a stator is on a water pump, unless it only refers to a component of the motor itself. Still, I thought that was a generator/alternator part. In any case, fresh water is a life critical system and I would swap the whole pump out, as well as buy a spare to be vac packed and kept aboard. In fact, that is precisely what I did when the same happened to my current boat.

Making water with a water maker in a harbor is generally a very bad idea for the water maker. Too many contaminants.
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Flushing fresh water is desired by many, to avoid odor from decaying organisms in salt water. But I'm with you. It isn't necessary, especially if you use the heads often and pump out often.

I do not know what a stator is on a water pump, unless it only refers to a component of the motor itself. Still, I thought that was a generator/alternator part. In any case, fresh water is a life critical system and I would swap the whole pump out, as well as buy a spare to be vac packed and kept aboard. In fact, that is precisely what I did when the same happened to my current boat.

Making water with a water maker in a harbor is generally a very bad idea for the water maker. Too many contaminants.
The "stator" in this case is basically an impeller, except it doesn't look like an impeller at all. It looks like a rubber upside down cup, without any handle.
The spinning end of the pump is twisted and fits inside the stator, which is inside a housing, wherein the water flows.

At the price of these pumps, I will NOT be buying more. Though I do understand the reasoning.

I have used water makers in many harbors.
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Re: Last Night at the Harvard Club

Not sure of the cost of the pump on your boat, but I bought a very nice Shurflo self regulating pressure pump for a couple hundred dollars, IIRC. Two, in fact, as being aboard with no fresh water is a serious problem. BTDT. It puts out pressure exactly like at home and is variable.
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Not sure of the cost of the pump on your boat, but I bought a very nice Shurflo self regulating pressure pump for a couple hundred dollars, IIRC. Two, in fact, as being aboard with no fresh water is a serious problem. BTDT. It puts out pressure exactly like at home and is variable.
This water pump has an accumulator tank. I think it is a rebuilt Galley Maid, rebuilt by a place in Fort Lauderdale called Raz Marine.

Raz Marine | Head Pumps | Water Pumps | Fort Lauderdale Florida

Luckily, the circuit breaker kept the motor from burning out; so all we need is the "stator", i.e., the rubber part. I ordered 2 of those.

I have experienced a lot of Shurflos... and every time I buy one, I get the product insurance with it. We went through 3 "Extreme Series" Shurflos, (advanced variable model), within 1 year before I let them off of the hook and took a lesser model. Being liveaboards, we find out within about 6 months what products are built to last, and which are not.

Once we have water again, I will be redesigning the toilets to actually do what the switch the prior owner had installed says it does: use either ocean or fresh water. Currently, the pretty switch does nothing. :-(

And, the 110v cold plate refrigeration systems are being ripped out to be replaced with FrigoBoat air & water cooled systems. These use variable controls on the compressors which are much more efficient.

Anyone interested in some 110v with cold plate(s) systems?? :-)

We are also going to be replacing the air conditioning systems. I have long ago learned to just replace anything with freon in it when it is past its prime.
It isn't worth the repair costs / labor, especially when you consider that todays' technicians don't know how to fix things. They only replace modules.

Never boring....
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In a very bad way. Thinking of buying a Catalina 27 tall rig in December. Thinking hard about it. Then, I'll have two boats.

"Invalid Album specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator" was the message I got when I clicked on your albums created link.
A friend of mine up here just told me that he wants to sell his 1984 Pearson 303 to move to a motor boat, to liveaboard.

If anyone is interested in a 1984 Pearson 303 sailboat:
Contact Jack Cleary at: veprjack@gmail.com

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Our first weekend onboard surely was a messy one... first moving onboard while the boat is at a mooring was more of a challenge than the usual "moving day" for people. However, the guy running the launch was amenable to filling his boat to the rails, and then all the passing of boxes, etc. Not to mention the "bell hop" from Boston Harbor Hotel that helped transfer all those items from a van to the dock; 2 loads of 2 carts, in almost 90 degree heat.

Both were tipped well.. :-)

Then, we found the boat was out of water; the water maker high pressure pump is not working, and after we tied up to a dock and stole 300 gallons of water, we learned that the delivery crew had apparently allowed the water pump to run dry for too long, which ruined the "stator", i.e., an impeller type part.

And, we learned that the toilets only run from fresh water!!!! How sick is that!? So, we can't take showers, or flush a toilet.

The air conditioners are dysfunctional, the refrigerator and the freezer are likewise dysfunctional; and without water, obviously the washer & dryer are out of the picture.

The delivery crew left the main halyard at the top of the mast; and the spinnaker pole hoist is stick on a block half way up the main, so the pole is embarrassingly askew.

We have been relocating all the things onboard, besides what we brought onboard, since the previous owners barely ever used her, and hadn't at all for the last few years, her various parts were in the weirdest of places.

Anyway, happy Monday!

Today I'll be ordering 2 new FrigoBoat systems, and a stator for the water pump to be delivered ASAP.
Now aren't you glad you have a big boat with all the mod cons??

Seriously Doug, this is what we were talking about on the other thread. Big boats = big headaches!

Seriously, I hope you get things settled quickly so you can both resume your travels. All the best!
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Now aren't you glad you have a big boat with all the mod cons??

Seriously Doug, this is what we were talking about on the other thread. Big boats = big headaches!

Seriously, I hope you get things settled quickly so you can both resume your travels. All the best!
As we sit on deck while moored in boston Harbor, near where a lot of ferries and other large boats are passing us frequently, we have noted that the 20 - 30 something sailboats are bouncing around like mad, while we barely move.

When we pulled into the dock at Boston Harbor Hotel Sunday morning to fill up our water tanks, Evelyn and I were able to leisurely tie up, without any dock people there to throw our lines to, because our boat is not easily pushed or moved by the tide / currents or even the wind. She sits there allowing us to tie her to the dock easily.

Granted our boat has a water pump problem, and a refrigeration problem, and an AC problem, etc., but doesn't your boat have a water pump, and a refrigerator with perhaps a freezer too? Most boats we were around in Florida, regardless of size, also had AC systems.

Regardless of the size of vessel, when a pump breaks, you have to fix it.
And any boat people would live in and not be "camping out" in will have these same systems, possibly just not as robust, but, they break too....

If your water pump, or toilet(s), or refrigeration, or AC if you have it, or bilge pump(s), or engine(s), or windlass, etc., have never broken, died, hick upped, or otherwise required some sort of attention, you either started boating within the last year, or you are "exaggerating".

And finally, neither Evelyn nor I have any interest in down sizing from our spacious wonderful vessel in order to what.... have less room?

We like the spacious room, the strong and full sized equipment, the smooth tracking, the 65,000 lbs of displacement, and all of our guests do too.

If I won the lottery I would buy much BIGGER. Can you say Perini Navi!? :-)
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A friend of mine up here just told me that he wants to sell his 1984 Pearson 303 to move to a motor boat, to liveaboard.

If anyone is interested in a 1984 Pearson 303 sailboat:
Contact Jack Cleary at: veprjack@gmail.com

Fair winds....
As an example of a recent "liveaboard" who is regretting buying too small, Jack bought this Pearson 30 footer last summer.

If he had bought a 50 footer, or larger, I highly doubt he would be as inspired to shift to the M/V world.

Which brings us back to what I advise anyone venturing toward a liveaboard life: Buy as big as you can afford. You will much more likely regret buying too small than you will regret buying too big.

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