Bats in the sails - SailNet Community
 11Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 41 Old 02-16-2012 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
safira's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 103
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Question Bats in the sails

How many have had the bat problem in thier sails? I noticed the droppings near the mast a few days ago and raised the main, and lord and behold I had at least 10 of the little rodents in the main makeing it there home. So instead of killing them I made a thing called a bat box. Hopefully this will keep them out of the sails, also put some moth balls in the sail folds.
Last night sitting in the pilot house I watched them come and go into the bat box for a couple of hours. I am not sure but i think I now have 20 of the little critters moved in. I will not put running water in for them no matter how much they want it, he he he have to draw a line someplace!!
jrd22 likes this.
safira is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Broad Reachin'
 
kwaltersmi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Posts: 1,936
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
We were cruising about 5 miles offshore headed to a port ~30 miles away on Lake Michigan last summer and noticed a bat circling our rig. He ended up landing on the mast about 25' above the deck and then occassionally dive bombing us before finally settling in on the sail track. As soon as we got about 1 mile out from port, I used the boat hook to gently nudge him away.

We had departed before sun-up so I assume he had spent the night high up on the mast (possibly in the mast track) and was disturbed when we raised the sails. I've got a couple of pictures I'll post later.

Catalina 34

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
kwaltersmi is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Senior Member
 
flyingwelshman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,795
Thanks: 21
Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwaltersmi View Post
We were cruising about 5 miles offshore headed to a port ~30 miles away on Lake Michigan last summer and noticed a bat circling our rig. He ended up landing on the mast about 25' above the deck and then occassionally dive bombing us before finally settling in on the sail track. As soon as we got about 1 mile out from port, I used the boat hook to gently nudge him away.

We had departed before sun-up so I assume he had spent the night high up on the mast (possibly in the mast track) and was disturbed when we raised the sails. I've got a couple of pictures I'll post later.
Cool!

I wonder if you installed a bat box if the bats would stay with your boat? I imagine they would sleep in the box during the day and come out when you are at anchor.

Might be a solution to the mosquito problem?

I don't know how hard it would be to clean guano off your deck though.

Is 'Bats in the rigging' the nautical equivalent of 'Bats in the belfry'?

1989 Hunter 30'
Southern Georgian Bay

The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. - Jacques Yves Cousteau
flyingwelshman is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Senior Member
 
Lake Superior Sailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Eagle River Wi.
Posts: 1,010
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Your story surprizes me ,as I cut down yard trees all the time, and have yet to find any bats living in those bat boxes I remove before cutting. I've found them every where else!.....Dale

Reluctant Lady
Cal 28, 1967
Lake Superior
Where God got it done!
Lake Superior Sailor is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Senior Slacker
 
SlowButSteady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 4,223
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by safira View Post
How many have had the bat problem in thier sails? I noticed the droppings near the mast a few days ago and raised the main, and lord and behold I had at least 10 of the little rodents in the main makeing it there home. So instead of killing them I made a thing called a bat box. Hopefully this will keep them out of the sails, also put some moth balls in the sail folds.
Last night sitting in the pilot house I watched them come and go into the bat box for a couple of hours. I am not sure but i think I now have 20 of the little critters moved in. I will not put running water in for them no matter how much they want it, he he he have to draw a line someplace!!
Cool!! Insectivorous bats (the vast majority of the species in N. America) are one of the best bug-controllers around. They eat a fairly good fraction of their own mass in flying insects every night. Just make sure that, as with all wild critters, you leave any apparently sick ones alone.

Never forget them. Do something to prevent it from happening again.
Charlotte Bacon, Daniel Barden, Rachel Davino, Olivia Josephine Gay, Ana M. Marquez-Greene, Dylan Hockley, Dawn Hochsprung, Madeleine F. Hsu, Catherine V. Hubbard, Chase Kowalski, Jesse Lewis, James Mattioli , Grace McDonnell, Anne Marie Murphy, Emilie Parker, Jack Pinto, Noah Pozner, Caroline Previdi, Jessica Rekos, Avielle Richman, Lauren Rousseau, Mary Sherlach, Victoria Soto, Benjamin Wheeler, Allison N. Wyatt
SlowButSteady is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Morgan 33 O.I. Perryville
 
travlineasy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,559
Thanks: 3
Thanked 150 Times in 133 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
When you get back to the dock, place the bat box on a high piling next to the boat. They'll stay with the box and keep the entire area around your boat bug free. They are amazing creatures that consume their entire body weight in flying insects every night.

Gary
DRFerron likes this.
travlineasy is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Senior Slacker
 
SlowButSteady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 4,223
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by travlineasy View Post
When you get back to the dock, place the bat box on a high piling next to the boat. They'll stay with the box and keep the entire area around your boat bug free.
If you do move the box, make sure you orient it (with respect to the sun) the same way as it originally was.

Quote:
Originally Posted by travlineasy View Post
They are amazing creatures that consume their entire body weight in flying insects every night.
They are amazing, but that's a bit of an exaggeration. Most species eat something on the order of a third of their body mass in insects every 24 hours. This is about on a par with most small homeothermic (="warm blooded") critters, most of their energy intake goes toward keeping them warm. Thermoregulation and energy intake is such a problem in bats that most species actually "hibernate" (officially, torpor), rather than simply sleep, every day to conserve energy.

Never forget them. Do something to prevent it from happening again.
Charlotte Bacon, Daniel Barden, Rachel Davino, Olivia Josephine Gay, Ana M. Marquez-Greene, Dylan Hockley, Dawn Hochsprung, Madeleine F. Hsu, Catherine V. Hubbard, Chase Kowalski, Jesse Lewis, James Mattioli , Grace McDonnell, Anne Marie Murphy, Emilie Parker, Jack Pinto, Noah Pozner, Caroline Previdi, Jessica Rekos, Avielle Richman, Lauren Rousseau, Mary Sherlach, Victoria Soto, Benjamin Wheeler, Allison N. Wyatt

Last edited by SlowButSteady; 02-16-2012 at 12:09 PM.
SlowButSteady is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Senior Member
 
flyingwelshman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,795
Thanks: 21
Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowButSteady View Post
If you do move the box, make sure you orient it (with respect to the sun) the same way as it originally was.



They are amazing, but that's a bit of an exaggeration. Most species eat something on the order of a third of their body mass in insects every 24 hours. This is about on a par with most small homeothermic (="warm blooded") critters, most of their energy intake goes toward keeping them warm. Thermoregulation and energy intake is such a problem in bats that most species actually "hibernate" (officially, torpor), rather than simply sleep, every day to conserve energy.
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na................................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................

1989 Hunter 30'
Southern Georgian Bay

The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. - Jacques Yves Cousteau
flyingwelshman is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 41 Old 02-16-2012
Senior Moment Member
 
SloopJonB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 11,615
Thanks: 60
Thanked 72 Times in 69 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Our California cousins bought a ranch in Sonoma that had a 120 year old farmhouse as the main house. After they moved in some neigbours came by and at some point said, "you know you have bats don't you?" Needless to say, they DIDN'T know but weren't worried about a few bats in their attic - it was unvented and they didn't think it would be much of a problem.

No problem that is, until WE arrived! We were having dinner outside at dusk and the bats started leaving in ones & two's & fives - this just kept going for 45 minutes. While my wife & I enjoyed it, their faces kept getting longer and longer until I pointed out the complete lack of bugs, despite the fact they were living just above the high water mark of a floodplain in an agro area. We should have been getting eaten alive but there were NO bugs at all.

They finally called in the "Bat Man" from the agro department and got them out and moved into one of the barns. Turned out there were hundreds of the little buggers living in their attic. They only had one little hole about 3/4" as their doorway so they must have been lined up like a theatre line to get out.

If you live in an area that has the little critters you should do everything you can to encourage them - they make an amazing difference.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
SloopJonB is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 41 Old 02-16-2012 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
safira's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 103
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
From what I have read, the type are brown bats. kind of small about the size of a mouse, body wise and about a 9" to 12 " wingspan. The guano is no problem as I put a pan under the box. They are said to counsume around 14,000 bugs in a single feeding.
There are enough no -see-ems (flying teeth) to keep them well fed.
They are fun to watch fly, great at the arobeics. Dang I have my own air force. whoop ti doo.. beats the heck out of a dog or cat .... I am still no putting in running water for them ... I like the low maintenance pet theroy (LMP) .... cheers
safira is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Racing Sails Vs. Cruising Sails??? NewportNewbie General Discussion (sailing related) 2 10-27-2011 02:25 PM
wind gen or more bats? SimonV Gear & Maintenance 13 05-26-2010 10:33 PM
North Sails vs North Sails Direct DrB Gear & Maintenance 0 06-25-2009 09:00 PM
Looking for old sails Jesikah Gear & Maintenance 4 02-27-2007 04:55 PM
Teralani Sailing Adventures - Snorkel Sails, Sunset Sails and Whale Watched from Kaanapali Beach, Maui (About.com) NewsReader News Feeds 0 10-06-2006 11:15 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome