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What is bad about the Colgate 26?

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I am considering the purchase of a Colgate 26 for day sailing, and I can find very little that is not positive (mostly plagiarized) -- except at SA where it is considered to be too slow. I understand that it doesn't plane and that the cabin can support pup tent camping at most -- the cabin appears to be little more than storage and a somewhat private bathroom.

What might I be missing?

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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

I have seen on race EVERY WEEK for the last four ++++ years and it kicks butt in the right hands in spin 3 with a 171 PHRF

Perserverance 2 8 1 1 1 1 1 i think the one 8th place finish it was blowing 35 knots

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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

There is one in our club and he does pretty well with it in PHRF club racing. Not a rocket ship, but reasonably quick for a 26 footer.
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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

Nothing.
Just ask the Naval Academy.

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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

IIRC it is not sinkable, designed to have fun, be somewhat speedy, and a boat one can learn on, make mistakes etc. With that all in mind, still have fun. if it suits your needs for where you are going to sail etc. buy it! if not, don't buy it! I'd consider it if it met my needs.

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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

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I understand that it doesn't plane ...
With the exception of the MacGregor hybrid, no monohull sailboat goes up on plane.

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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

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With the exception of the MacGregor hybrid, no monohull sailboat goes up on plane.
Oh, Donna..... that's so untrue....

Melges 20/24/32, Martin 242, Kirby 30, Henderson 30, J 105/109, etc etc are all capable of planing in the right conditions. We've had our Mtn 242 planing at 12-14 knots in flat water and 20+ knot breezes many many times.

And then there's the big boys.. Volvo 70s and the newer maxis will all plane into the 20 and sometimes 30 knot range, though admittedly some of those high spurts are surfing, but sustained planing speeds are not unusual in the sport boat arena!

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Oh, Donna..... that's so untrue....

Melges 20/24/32, Martin 242, Kirby 30, Henderson 30, J 105/109, etc etc are all capable of planing in the right conditions. We've had our Mtn 242 planing at 12-14 knots in flat water and 20+ knot breezes many many times.

And then there's the big boys.. Volvo 70s and the newer maxis will all plane into the 20 and sometimes 30 knot range, though admittedly those high spurts are surfing, but sustained planing speeds are not unusual in the sport boat arena!
Really? Their hulls come out of the water? As for the rest (volvos, maxis), when I say "no" I mean of the ones us mortals with an average salary can afford.

I think of planing I think of powerboat-style, go-fast-type planing. I suppose I'll have to adjust my thinking.

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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

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With the exception of the MacGregor hybrid, no monohull sailboat goes up on plane.
That is a bit of a broad brush you are using there Donna.
I believe that the 23' Sonar which has a fin keel will get up on a plane, at least with a spinnaker pulling it. SONAR sailboat on sailboatdata.com
Maybe you meant to exclude the 19' Lightning and the Flying Scot as well because they are dinghies, but they both will plane and are mono-hulled boats - just not keel boats.
I'm pretty sure some of the high tech ocean racers are also capable of getting up on a plane.
As a very general rule: "very few mono-hulled keel boats go up on a plane" is perhaps more accurate.
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Re: What is bad about the Colgate 26?

OK, OK! I already conceded that I'm wrong! What more do you want?

Sheesh, I could have edited out my comment but I didn't want to open that can of worms!
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