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Sabre did that as well with their boats until the 90s. I just worry about something sliding across the port side and ripping the prop off.

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Thats good to know. It is Port. I was facing the engine in my thoughts. Sorry,
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As an owner of a C&C 32, might i recommend some "putting it in reverse" practice in the mooring field. My boat partner and I have both noticed a decided tendency of the C&C to rapidly turn when she is put in reverse , due to the offset prop. Everything calms down after about 90 seconds of reverse, but it's good to practice backing up to your mooring ball repeatedly before trying for a slip.

Also, the C&C photo album website has an email thread that you can sign up for that has been full of extremely good advice. Have fun with your new "free" C&C!!!!
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Also, the C&C photo album website has an email thread that you can sign up for that has been full of extremely good advice. Have fun with your new "free" C&C!!!!
To the first part, your right I need a lot of time learning the operational behavior of the Off-Set prop shaft and prop wash in general. it was my first time with this boat. It was also my first time in 30 years with a large Sailboat. I needed to get her out for a bottom job and the tide was in my favor with this full-moon. So I went for it. Not sure the folding prop gives good thrust, and did you see that bottom? Hahahah, I would not much thrust with any prop with that kind of beard.

And as for the C&C photo Album. Not real impressed with that. I have found this site much more knowledgeable on things related to sailing. Not many photos for an album? I am signed up and with the up to 30 foot area. Like 10 or 15 post in 2 years? Maybe I am not doing something right? Not sure how to post photos over there. But Thanks I will keep checking back to see if more people start using the C&C site. I signed up my vessel and information back in December still can’t find it?
Thanks’ again for your help guys.
I talked to the marina and here are the charges.
Haul-out bottom cleaning and 2 coat paint job with shaft zinc. $1,450.00
New Waterline stripes $ 600.00
Deep clean, buff and polish “gel-cot” $12. pr foot $ 540.00
Stuffing box repack with new boot? Not sure yet $ 350.00 Total $ 2,940.00 Am I being over charged?
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To the first part, your right I need a lot of time learning the operational behavior of the Off-Set prop shaft and prop wash in general. it was my first time with this boat. It was also my first time in 30 years with a large Sailboat. I needed to get her out for a bottom job and the tide was in my favor with this full-moon. So I went for it. Not sure the folding prop gives good thrust, and did you see that bottom? Hahahah, I would not much thrust with any prop with that kind of beard.

And as for the C&C photo Album. Not real impressed with that. I have found this site much more knowledgeable on things related to sailing. Not many photos for an album? I am signed up and with the up to 30 foot area. Like 10 or 15 post in 2 years? Maybe I am not doing something right? Not sure how to post photos over there. But Thanks I will keep checking back to see if more people start using the C&C site. I signed up my vessel and information back in December still can’t find it?
Thanks’ again for your help guys.
I talked to the marina and here are the charges.
Haul-out bottom cleaning and 2 coat paint job with shaft zinc. $1,450.00
New Waterline stripes $ 600.00
Deep clean, buff and polish “gel-cot” $12. pr foot $ 540.00
Stuffing box repack with new boot? Not sure yet $ 350.00 Total $ 2,940.00 Am I being over charged?
I love when people share the prices they pay.

Here are some prices off my yards website:

Tape and paint bottom
All Outboards $8.30/ft
Inboards
18ft - 37ft $10.00/ft
38ft - up $11.75/ft

Buff and wax
Up to 27 ft. $11.50/ft
28 ft to 32 ft $16.25/ft
33 ft and up $23.00/ft

Plus last year they got $85/hour for labor. That is not that bad really, especially when you consider you have recourse if it isn't right.



I think you're getting better prices than that!

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....And as for the C&C photo Album. Not real impressed with that. I have found this site much more knowledgeable on things related to sailing..... But Thanks I will keep checking back to see if more people start using the C&C site.


I talked to the marina and here are the charges.
Haul-out bottom cleaning and 2 coat paint job with shaft zinc. $1,450.00
New Waterline stripes $ 600.00
Deep clean, buff and polish “gel-cot” $12. pr foot $ 540.00
Stuffing box repack with new boot? Not sure yet $ 350.00 Total $ 2,940.00 Am I being over charged?
to clarify: C&C photo album is not about photos. It's about keeping track of all things C&C. There is an email thread you can sign up for that has led to invaluable help for C&C specific questions I have had. For example: I have an OLD autohelm ST4000+ autopilot and one of my fellow subscribers was able to hook me up with a new control head (no longer made or supported). This saved me $1500. Look for "email discussion list" and hit the button marked "subscribe"

As for your yard charges:
1. have them strip the bottom for you and do the rest yourself on a warm weekend with a roller brush for the bottom paint. Practical Sailor magazine just rated some paints at (40?) months and some surprisingly cheap bottom paints made it into the top 5 at around $100/gallon. Plus, practical sailor, if i recall correctly, recommends being OCD about prep work and primer paint. Not something the yard will give two hoots about.
2. Boot stripe: do it yourself
3. Stuffing box: materials about $20, time about 2 hours. Tools: plumbing wrench x2, dental pick from harbor freight tools.
4. Gel coat: harbor freight tools periodically sells a random orbit buffer/polisher for $20. 3M makes the buffer/polisher for $40-60 per container. With a ladder and an extension cord (and another weekend day), you can do it yourself. Or, do like we did: screw the gel coat, it just gets all chalky again in about 1 week on the water anyway.

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Having work done by a boatyard is expensive, your quote does not seem out of line. Most of the jobs listed I would consider pretty standard DIY fare, except the stuffing box replacement - I personally would have the yard do that.


Before you paint your boottop you should try cleaning it per Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

You can try compounding but probably need to start with wetsanding. I think most boottops should be savable... if the boottop hazes up again before the end of next season, then paint, but even this is also a standard DIY job.

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I have no place to work on it? They will not let me do work in their yard? Insuraance.
Being new at this they are nearly thru with the stuffing box. It needed rebuilt. The bolt holding the shaft to the collar broke off. they had to tap it out. they pulled the shaft and put the new rubber boot on the shaft with a new stuffing box cord.
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Sounds like they're treating you alright.. next time you might try look for a yard that allows DIY though.... esp a simple bottom paint job...

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I have so much to learn. Thanks for all yalls help.
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