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AndreasNYC 03-12-2012 05:14 PM

Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
Hello Everyone

I apologize in advance if this post is in the wrong section.

Can someone recommend the best route from the downtown (west side) of Manhattan to Lon Island Sound?

I am considering acquiring a Catalina 27 or something similar to keep in the Hudson and do occasional weekend trips out to the sound.

I have heard the East River is very dangerous and the route around the northern end of Manhattan seems very long.

What is the best ways to get there? At what tide is it smartest to leave?

thanks

Andreas

nauticalrich 03-12-2012 05:33 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
East river is the only and quickest way to go. Several of us went from Connecticut through the east river last year. We went with the current and had no problem. Smallest boat was an Oday 22, mineis a 31 and there were larger.

Go to You Tube and look up Oday rondayvous Milford to Jersey City. There is a video of the trip.:)

AndreasNYC 03-12-2012 05:37 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
Where is a good place to look up currents and tides ?

thanks

Andreas

Tempest 03-12-2012 05:56 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
Hi Andreas,

The East River is the way to go. Dangerous is a relative term. I would not take the trip up or down the East River casually, but it's very managable. You need to understand the currents and the timing and the Rules of the road and have a reliable engine. The entire transit takes about 2 hours or so from the Battery, ( to the Throgs Neck Bridge) with a favorable current, which you will need. The best time to leave the Battery is about two hours after low tide. ( at the battery). Eldridge tides and current tables, is a great book to have. But, you can obtain the information from a number of sources. The timing coming the other way is more focused on slack current at Hell Gate. If/when you do it for the first time, it might be a good idea to have an experienced hand onboard. Remember that the route takes you up the west side of Roosevelt Island past the UN. and not the opposite side. You can also pass between the Brother Islands rather than go around.

The Ocean route around long island on the other hand will take you 26 hours or more, and it's an exposed Ocean route with unfriendly inlets. So, major difference.

There's no viable route around the north end of Manhattan. The Hudson to the Harlem River to the East River, is not an option for sailboats.

When you're ready to do this trip, feel free to PM me and I can help you with the timing and give you some pointers.

SkywalkerII 03-12-2012 08:03 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
Ditto on Tempest.

It's really a fun ride. I've made 10 kts over the bottom in a Tartan 27! It can churn like a washing machine at Hell Gate, but it's very manageable.

Good luck.

CalebD 03-12-2012 08:15 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
There are just too many bridges over the Harlem River for a sailboat to make this route practical - unless you want to drop your mast!
Like everyone else has said, get the Eldridge Tide & Pilot Manual:
Study it, read the text (what little text there is) as it is very enlightening. Study the current diagrams for the East River and figure it out for yourself. That is half of the fun/challenge.
Mostly, enjoy it as it is a fun trip.

AndreasNYC 03-12-2012 08:33 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
You guys are a treasure trove of valuable information as usual.

Andreas

bubb2 03-12-2012 09:13 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreasNYC (Post 844519)
Where is a good place to look up currents and tides ?

thanks

Andreas

Tide Location Selection for New York

KIVALO 03-12-2012 09:20 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
Hell's Gate is fun, then again I had 1800HP at my disposal.

Seriously though the trip is pretty cool if you've never done it before.


Brad
s/v KIVALO

gershel 03-12-2012 10:43 PM

Re: Best Route from Mahattan to LI Sound
 
I think this trip would be too dangerous for you, and any other boat you would encounter. If you cannot read a chart, consult tide tables, and do all the other things needed for safe navigation, then I think you should educate yourself first, such as most people on this forum have done.
The things your asking are basic, and should be learned first before moving to the next level.
Marc


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