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Re: Big Wind!!!

You are learning an important lesson. Who is the one ultimately responsible for the safety of crew and vessel? Is it the previous owner who is along for the ride? (rhetorical, of course)

When planning to leave in less than favorable weather I try to think of the worst (within reason) possible weather and if my crew and I will be able to deal with it.
Some examples:
Can you handle a MOB situation?
Do you have enough harnesses and tethers?
Will you stay in range of communications?

I don't want to sound like an alarmist or for you to think I'm telling you not to go. If you are confident that you are prepared for the trip, by all means go. Your boat can probably handle more weather than you can.

For me, just being reefed and ready reduces stress allows me to enjoy the ride.

There will be times, many times, that you cancel a trip because you don't like the weather. Only to find that they are wrong and it's perfect out there but it's too late to leave. Oh well, better safe than sorry.
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Re: Big Wind!!!

For what its worth I find it difficult to make ground close hauled in 30 to 35 knots especially if there's a chop. Maybe a heavy weather jib would help.
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Re: Big Wind!!!

At the risk of sounding like a wimp, if you are planning it for this weekend (March 17-18), don't go. The weather is prediicted to have gale warnings. This is your first trip across the channel. It will be a long, rough and cold trip. Comming back, you will have a large following sea. It will not be a comfortable, fun trip. The boat will probably handle the weather but you may not handle it well. If you are caught out in gale force winds, it is good to have some experience in handling them. Go out for a day sail; to get a feel of the boat in big winds. Don't risk a crossing in those winds and seas if you don' have to.

Call the local Coast Guard office and ask their opinion. Call the Avalon Harbor Master and ask their opinion. Ask your wife for her opinion.

It may be a wonderful adventure or a disaster waiting to happen.

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Re: Big Wind!!!

Reef before you have to. Probably one of the most common mistakes we've all made is being on a run, not paying attention to the fact that the wind has increased WAY above the point when we should have reefed down. Having to turn up into a 30 knot wind and put a reef in is no stinkin' fun at all. Seriously, if Maggies drawers are flying, you may want to wait. One cardinal rule of remaining alive while sailing is to avoid trying to keep a schedule. Don't ever go because of a commitment, because someone else wants to go or expects to go, or because you don't want to appear overcautious.
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Re: Big Wind!!!

If you go out in the expected conditions try a few runs close to the harbor/ inlet entrance before venturing all the way out exposed in the open channel. 30 knots to 45 is nothing to sneeze at on the open ocean. Why risk the boat in heavy weather just yet. get some close to shore exoperience with the owner and save the crossing for a more pleasent day.

This is where the rubber meets the road to see if you really are a dare devil and risky taker or a prudent safe sailor. I proably have no right to say this and chastize me for interfearing if you must, but If I remember right your wife had issues with you taking what she thought were unnecessary risks. Maybe this is the time to show her that you are safety first and your drive for manhood in sailing doesnt over come your putting yourself in a riskier than necessary situation. If you ever expect her to either endorse your sailing or go out with you and make her feel safe...this is a major crossroads.

Its hard to keep you sailboat or your wife when there will ineveitably become a tug of war when she wont go with you and/ or support your endevors as you make her worry unnecessarily. It your choice now. Make the one which makes the most sense to you in the long run. There will be plenty of more times to go to Catalina.

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Re: Big Wind!!!

Chef makes a pretty good point. If your wife has seen your enthusiasm for this trip and sees you make what she believes is a good decision, that could build some credibility.

Competence and judgement are two different skills. People are notably more comfortable with the later, because it will keep everyone safe across a spectrum of different competency levels.
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Re: Big Wind!!!

Looks like the forecasts have gone downhill a bit since the original post, 45 knots is a whole world different to 25-30. 45 is a stay at home day.
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Re: Big Wind!!!

I am a little confused. The OP said 20-30. Others have said more, but I can't tell if they know more or it's just creeping.

If the game is 30-40, now even 45, the game should be postponed.
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Big Wind!!!

I second the idea going out with a day sail in mind. If you set out for the big trip you'll probably have a harder time turning around and might overcommit. Use the oppty instead to get some experience closer to home harbor on all points of sail in heavy weather with experienced crew.
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I am a little confused. The OP said 20-30. Others have said more, but I can't tell if they know more or it's just creeping.

If the game is 30-40, now even 45, the game should be postponed.
I was wondering the same thing. Did he mention the day he was talking about - here or elsewhere?

I also agree with your post above. I've sailed in 40 knots once. It's an eye-opener.
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